โAug-18-2017 11:42 AM
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bfourman wrote:
Go with the 2500. The Denalis are nice, but at the end of the day are 1500s. They are all time AWD (non-selectable) and have the 4L65e trans, which will fail eventually under heavy towing. Just because they have the 6.0L doesn't mean it will tow better. I would give up all the bells and whistles of the Denali for the stronger drivetrain of the 2500 any day. For reference the rear brakes on my Yukon XL 2500 are the same part number as the front brakes on the 1500s. With your wife and 3 small children the weight of all the stuff they "have to have" adds up quick and the 2500 will handle it better than the Denali.
I currently tow with the rig in my sig and it handles my 8000LB TT fairly well. I have added AirLift bags in the rear for leveling (yes I use a WD hitch) and had the PCM tuned for more performance, but only because I can't leave anything stock for long. To be honest I wanted an 8.1 Yukon XL/Sub but couldn't justify the daily MPG versus a 6.0 for something I tow with a dozen times a year. With the PCM tuned for 93 octane I get an average of 14MPG mixed city/hwy empty (well, with the wife and 4 kids it's never truly empty) and 8ish towing the camper. I managed to get 11MPG pulling the Jeep to KY this summer, which I thought was respectable considering my buddy with a 8.1 Yukon XL got 9 pulling a very similar Jeep/trailer combo.
Bottom line, you will be better off in the long run with the 2500 series Sub/Yukon XL.
โAug-19-2017 09:07 PM
โAug-19-2017 08:10 PM
FlyingBison wrote:CavemanCharlie wrote:
I don't know if they have them in Expedition's. But, my 2011 F-150 with the 5.0 Coyote Engine is a power machine.
I had a Chevy 2004 1500 with the 5.3 and it towed OK but, the 4 speed transmission went out at 80000 miles. I have friends that have had the same combo and they all have had to put a transmission in them. Plus, it was in the shop every 3 months for something. a hundred bucks for this, a hundred fifty bucks for that.
The newer Chev's / GMC's should have the 6 speed or more by now I would think. If you don't mind them nickel and dimeing you to death on everything else.
I've not heard of the 5.0L coyote engine before, sounds intriguing though. I wasn't really looking at the 5.3l version Chevy/GMC but rather trying to upgrade to the 6.0L. the 2500 versions have the heavier duty transmissions which I've heard good things about. The transmission in my Expedition is questionable on its reliability which is another reason I'm looking to sell it. Even now with only 112,000 miles on it, it has a lovely shudder when shifting into overdrive when not towing.
โAug-18-2017 10:16 PM
โAug-18-2017 05:30 PM
CavemanCharlie wrote:
I don't know if they have them in Expedition's. But, my 2011 F-150 with the 5.0 Coyote Engine is a power machine.
I had a Chevy 2004 1500 with the 5.3 and it towed OK but, the 4 speed transmission went out at 80000 miles. I have friends that have had the same combo and they all have had to put a transmission in them. Plus, it was in the shop every 3 months for something. a hundred bucks for this, a hundred fifty bucks for that.
The newer Chev's / GMC's should have the 6 speed or more by now I would think. If you don't mind them nickel and dimeing you to death on everything else.
โAug-18-2017 05:24 PM
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โAug-18-2017 02:54 PM
boogie_4wheel wrote:
The Denali trim gets you the 6.2L, not the 6.0L.
โAug-18-2017 02:43 PM
โAug-18-2017 02:10 PM
donn0128 wrote:
Have you given any thought to simply spending a couple thousand for a gear ratio swap?
โAug-18-2017 01:59 PM
โAug-18-2017 01:50 PM
wowens79 wrote:
My truck is a 2002 with the 6.0 and the 4 spd tranny, it has 207k miles and has been a solid truck. My TT is about the same weight, and it pulls it pretty well, but the 6spd tranny is supposed to make it really shine, also when they went to the 6spd, they bumped the HP and torque.
You can tell a 1500 from a 2500 by the number of lugnuts. the 2500 will have 8, and the 1500 will have 6. You can probably count them looking at the pictures online.
I think with the 2500 you will really enjoy the stiffer suspension, tires, and larger brakes.
โAug-18-2017 01:47 PM
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