Oct-10-2019 11:54 AM
Oct-12-2019 01:37 PM
fj12ryder wrote:Airdaile wrote:Perhaps you should review the definition of "integral", and maybe select the word "optional" instead.
What puzzles me is that people will take part in an activity that clearly includes an aspect that they don't like, and knowing full well that that particular aspect is an integral part of the activity, set out to change things to remove that part which they don't like, ruining it for everyone.
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And perhaps at the same time review the OP's first post. Again, this thread is not about campers/RV'ers banning fires, it's about the owners of RV parks and campgrounds banning fires. And since the owners may be banning fires because of complaints about said fires, maybe it isn't quite the "integral" part of the activity that you think it is. As for me, and many others from what I've seen and heard, not having a fire doesn't "ruin" anything.
Oct-12-2019 11:00 AM
fj12ryder wrote:am1958 wrote:You do that, and let me know how you intend to go about it, and the final results. 🙂 You'll be able to find me because I will be the one that doesn't stink of smoke, or have red eyes due to sitting in the smoke. 🙂
Maybe we _campers_ should boycott those that "don't like the smell of smoke" or has detrimental effects on their health...
Oct-12-2019 09:36 AM
am1958 wrote:You do that, and let me know how you intend to go about it, and the final results. 🙂 You'll be able to find me because I will be the one that doesn't stink of smoke, or have red eyes due to sitting in the smoke. 🙂
Maybe we _campers_ should boycott those that "don't like the smell of smoke" or has detrimental effects on their health...
Oct-12-2019 08:28 AM
Oct-12-2019 07:43 AM
Airdaile wrote:
What puzzles me is that people will take part in an activity that clearly includes an aspect that they don't like, and knowing full well that that particular aspect is an integral part of the activity, set out to change things to remove that part which they don't like, ruining it for everyone.
"Gee I love surfing, but the sharks!!! We should kill all the seals so the sharks will go away."
For Barney...
"I love ice cream, but the sugar!!! Let's get the gummint to set limits on the amount of sugar they are forcing me to eat."
Make a trip to Prince Edward Island to find out how much french fries made with heart healthy oils suck.
We're not happy until you're not happy.
End of rant
Oct-12-2019 07:31 AM
pnichols wrote:Yolue wrote:
We RVers need to Boycott places that don’t allow a special part of the camping experience...”campfires”. It’s bad enough that so many places don’t allow wood fires but not allowing propane campfires is beyond ridiculous.
We carry in our RV a variety of equipment and supplies for a campfire and it’s so disappointing to not be able to use them and enjoy that experience.
I own a small RV park and when we are in a burning ban I have had people cancel their reservation...”Really, we can’t have a campfire?...we will book another time”
I will not book anymore places that don’t allow a campfire.
We carry along a propane firepit and an extra 20 lb. propane tank to power it in order to solve the "no campfires" problem! No fire ring to clean out or messing with firewood is required.
The flame is adjustable and comes up through the bricks in the firepit to look just like a the real thing. It puts out heat just like the real thing, cooks S'mores and hot dogs, emits no odors to bother other campers, and you just turn a knob to shut it down when going to bed.
It works like a champ for providing carefree campfires everywhere.
Oct-12-2019 07:02 AM
Airdaile wrote:Perhaps you should review the definition of "integral", and maybe select the word "optional" instead.
What puzzles me is that people will take part in an activity that clearly includes an aspect that they don't like, and knowing full well that that particular aspect is an integral part of the activity, set out to change things to remove that part which they don't like, ruining it for everyone.
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Oct-12-2019 06:17 AM
fj12ryder wrote:Bert Ackerman wrote:Nope, I'll go where I want to go, thank you very much. I RV, I gave up tents and camping many years ago. Got a tent? You're camping. Got a trailer? You're RV'ing.
If you do not like campfires, don't go to "Campgrounds" that have fire rings and permit fires. It's really that easy. Up in the Northeast / Mid Atlantic, the public campgrounds be they State or Fed/USACE, were built to be campgrounds for camping. They all permit fires and all have fire rings. They were not built to be overnight stops for travelers or to be long term accomodations for full timers. They are for the residents of those areas to be able to get out and experience nature. Campfires have always been a part of that experience and always will be.
If you want to "RV", go to RV Parks or Resorts.
Oct-12-2019 05:09 AM
Oct-12-2019 04:39 AM
Oct-11-2019 10:43 PM
Yolue wrote:
We RVers need to Boycott places that don’t allow a special part of the camping experience...”campfires”. It’s bad enough that so many places don’t allow wood fires but not allowing propane campfires is beyond ridiculous.
We carry in our RV a variety of equipment and supplies for a campfire and it’s so disappointing to not be able to use them and enjoy that experience.
I own a small RV park and when we are in a burning ban I have had people cancel their reservation...”Really, we can’t have a campfire?...we will book another time”
I will not book anymore places that don’t allow a campfire.
Oct-11-2019 07:08 PM
Oct-11-2019 07:04 PM
Bert Ackerman wrote:Nope, I'll go where I want to go, thank you very much. I RV, I gave up tents and camping many years ago. Got a tent? You're camping. Got a trailer? You're RV'ing.
If you do not like campfires, don't go to "Campgrounds" that have fire rings and permit fires. It's really that easy. Up in the Northeast / Mid Atlantic, the public campgrounds be they State or Fed/USACE, were built to be campgrounds for camping. They all permit fires and all have fire rings. They were not built to be overnight stops for travelers or to be long term accomodations for full timers. They are for the residents of those areas to be able to get out and experience nature. Campfires have always been a part of that experience and always will be.
If you want to "RV", go to RV Parks or Resorts.
Oct-11-2019 06:34 PM
TechWriter wrote:I agree! Carry one of those propane "campfires" if you must, but leave the firewood behind. I hate the smoke and the smell of my clothes and trailer after being around one. Very much prefer the campgrounds that don't allow them.Yolue wrote:
We RVers need to Boycott places that don’t allow a special part of the camping experience...”campfires”. It’s bad enough that so many places don’t allow wood fires but not allowing propane campfires is beyond ridiculous.
Au contraire. Please supply a list of these smoke free campgrounds. They're my next stops.
Oct-11-2019 05:24 PM