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SRW vs DRW

klr650goldwing
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Is there a general rule regarding how much weight is okay for SRW and how much is too much? We are thinking of a larger 5er and not sure how much larger will require a new truck too.
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mountainkowboy
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CabinetmakerII wrote:
jay5er wrote:
Just remember one thing DRW (dual rear wheel) will NOT go through a Car/Truck Wash !!


There are a few Car/Truck washes that can handle a DRW truck. You just have to look for them.


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CabinetmakerII
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jay5er wrote:
Just remember one thing DRW (dual rear wheel) will NOT go through a Car/Truck Wash !!


There are a few Car/Truck washes that can handle a DRW truck. You just have to look for them.
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lcseds wrote:
I still don't have an RV yet but bought a 2018 F350 DRW. It can tow rigs that are more than I can afford, but you never know what the future brings. It's my daily driver and for months I don't think there is any place I wanted to go where it wouldn't fit. Park farther from the store? I do that with all the vehicles I own. But the car wash places is an issue......


There you go. When 5er shopping time comes around you won't be running from the showroom out to the truck to see if you have enough truck for the rig inside that you like. You already have enough truck.

Now, install a hitch before you go shopping so that the dealer can see that you are prepared to take one away now & he needs to put a very sharp point on his pencil. If he doesn't the next dealer down the road or the next town will.

You are ready to pull not play games.
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rhagfo
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lcseds wrote:
I still don't have an RV yet but bought a 2018 F350 DRW. It can tow rigs that are more than I can afford, but you never know what the future brings. It's my daily driver and for months I don't think there is any place I wanted to go where it wouldn't fit. Park farther from the store? I do that with all the vehicles I own. But the car wash places is an issue......

Congratulations on the new TV! As you said 99% of the size issue is in the mind of the driver! Fenders no wider than the mirrors, still go through drive throughout, not all, and a couple need to be hit just right.
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ourjeeps
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larry barnhart wrote:
In the resort we are in for the last many winters it looks like the dually trucks are becoming more popular now.

chevman


Larry -

Good to hear that trend. I'd say that's a real good thing (safety and capability). I get to say fewer prayers for other folks...

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ourjeeps
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lcseds congrats on your DRW. You'll be able to safely and comfortably tow a wide range of RV trailers/other trailers with that truck when the time comes. (thumbs up)
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lcseds
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I still don't have an RV yet but bought a 2018 F350 DRW. It can tow rigs that are more than I can afford, but you never know what the future brings. It's my daily driver and for months I don't think there is any place I wanted to go where it wouldn't fit. Park farther from the store? I do that with all the vehicles I own. But the car wash places is an issue......

Cummins12V98
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Me Again wrote:
larry barnhart wrote:
In the resort we are in for the last many winters it looks like the dually trucks are becoming more popular now.

chevman


Along with 5th wheels getting longer and heavier. Chris


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Me_Again
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larry barnhart wrote:
In the resort we are in for the last many winters it looks like the dually trucks are becoming more popular now.

chevman


Along with 5th wheels getting longer and heavier. Chris
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larry_barnhart
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In the resort we are in for the last many winters it looks like the dually trucks are becoming more popular now.

chevman
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4x4ord
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rhagfo wrote:


Just have to ask, how does that 5er tow/ride with less than 15% pin weight?? I would think it would be a bit of a bucking bronco.


Here's a Video I made of the test run performed while I was building the thing.



I have 400 lbs of ballast in the front closet to get the weights where they are. At those weights it handles just ok. Any less weight on the pin and it's terrible. Bucking isn't so much a problem but swaying is. I am planning to move my trailer axles back 20" which should put the weights where I want them.
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4x4ord
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Charlie_on_lake_conr wrote:
Hi, brand new member looking for confirmation from the experts (lot’s of good discussion in this topic) and I don’t want to trust the salesman. I’ve poured through the owners manuals and towing guides and have calculated a trailer GVWR of 18,454 based on my TV (I know I need to actually weigh my TV, but let’s assume my base numbers are correct).

First question - does this TT GVWR sound right?
Second question - Would a 5th wheel with a UVW of 14,190, carrying capacity of 3,810 and pin weight of 3,176 be too much for this TV?

Hope my pics show in the post:





How many axles under this fiver? If it is a triple axle toy hauler the 1 ton srw would handle it just fine. If it is a tandem axle center kitchen you'll definitely overload the trucks gvwr by the time you fully load the trailer. If you're comfortable loading the truck to near its rear axle capacity you might be ok but the only way you'd know would be to scale the unit loaded.
2023 F350 SRW Platinum short box 4x4.
B&W Companion
2008 Citation Platinum XL 34.5

twodownzero
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Charlie_on_lake_conr wrote:
Hi, brand new member looking for confirmation from the experts (lot’s of good discussion in this topic) and I don’t want to trust the salesman. I’ve poured through the owners manuals and towing guides and have calculated a trailer GVWR of 18,454 based on my TV (I know I need to actually weigh my TV, but let’s assume my base numbers are correct).

First question - does this TT GVWR sound right?
Second question - Would a 5th wheel with a UVW of 14,190, carrying capacity of 3,810 and pin weight of 3,176 be too much for this TV?

Hope my pics show in the post:





Your UVW is low. That truck is going to weigh 7300-7500 pounds empty.

A 5th wheel with a 14k lb UVW is very likely going to overload an SRW truck.

You need a dually.

hornet28
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4x4ord wrote:
Cummins had me figured but those weights do include 400 lbs of ballast in the front closet to offset some of the bike's weight:


Click For Full-Size Image.


I'm curious as to how that works. I don't think you put it up there by hand