โAug-26-2017 09:00 AM
โOct-01-2021 07:36 PM
MFL wrote:
^^^Thanks for that! Had to show your post to my wife, as she had never heard anyone say that about me! :C
Jerry
โOct-01-2021 04:44 PM
โOct-01-2021 03:39 PM
MFL wrote:Grit dog wrote:
^You revived a 4 year old thread to try n start an argument about an engine that is now replaced by a newer one?
Slow day in your world? Lol
Whoa Grit!!! My beloved 6.2 is not a replaced relic, just the base engine, that can be upgraded to a newer one!
Reviving an old thread for sake of argument/discussion may be better than no activity on a slow day???
Not sure though, since I never argue, or stir!
Jerry
โOct-01-2021 02:20 PM
Grit dog wrote:
^You revived a 4 year old thread to try n start an argument about an engine that is now replaced by a newer one?
Slow day in your world? Lol
โOct-01-2021 11:59 AM
Grit dog wrote:
And now your so anti diesel
โOct-01-2021 09:31 AM
Grit dog wrote:
^You revived a 4 year old thread to try n start an argument about an engine that is now replaced by a newer one?
Slow day in your world? Lol
โOct-01-2021 07:43 AM
Devo the dog wrote:rhagfo wrote:
Well yes the upfront cost is more, but worth more at trade in or selling.
LOL.
This is no different than the woman who claims "it was on sale and we saved a lot of money" after spending thousands on more shoes and clothes, to be put in a full closet of nothing to wear.
โOct-01-2021 07:41 AM
Devo the dog wrote:rhagfo wrote:
Well yes the upfront cost is more, but worth more at trade in or selling.
LOL.
This is no different than the woman who claims "it was on sale and we saved a lot of money" after spending thousands on more shoes and clothes, to be put in a full closet of nothing to wear.
โOct-01-2021 07:30 AM
โOct-01-2021 07:23 AM
Gatorm wrote:IdaD wrote:spud1957 wrote:
Of course it always turns into the diesel argument. Yes, high fuel mileage going up the gauntlet. What are your diesels getting going up it? I suspect the delta between the two is not much different than non gauntlet towing.
I think they run around 4 or a little better on that particular run from videos I've seen in the past. Real world with a camper you're probably comparing 7 or 8 with a big gas truck versus 11 or 12 with a diesel. Not great either way. Mileage is only part of the equation, though. Screaming up a grade at 5500 RPM isn't my idea of a relaxing trip even though I know they're designed to do it. I would also bet that the truck in the video would struggle significantly more if it were pulling something like a fifth wheel that drags a lot more air.
In my mind there's really not much cost difference between the two if you look at a total ownership cost. The diesel is more up front and will cost a little more to maintain, but will get better fuel economy and resale value. Which begs the question - if the cost delta is immaterial, why not opt for the higher performing diesel? That's something you can appreciate anytime you get behind the wheel.
If this were true then your statement of going with the diesel would be obvious. The problem is, this isnโt the case. The diesel cost more up front by $8-10k, it takes 2-3x more oil every oil change, fuel filters are $100 and up every 2-3 oil changes, fuel is $.30-50 more per gallon, not to mention if you ever have a def/dpf failure or a turbo failure or injector failure or complete fuel system replacement (any of these sound familiar? I bet they do) then the cost of ownership is way out of balance. The diesel pulls a ton better. Trust me I know. Iโm a auto dealer and sell lots of 3/4 and 1 ton trucks so Iโve driven and used all of them in gas and diesel. If you pull over 10k lbs more than once a week I would go diesel. If you donโt, save yourself a bunch of money and time and buy the gas truck. Also, the gas truck, in my opinion is a better daily driver than a diesel.
โOct-01-2021 06:04 AM
rhagfo wrote:
Well yes the upfront cost is more, but worth more at trade in or selling.
โSep-30-2021 10:36 PM
Gatorm wrote:
If this were true then your statement of going with the diesel would be obvious. The problem is, this isnโt the case. The diesel cost more up front by $8-10k, it takes 2-3x more oil every oil change, fuel filters are $100 and up every 2-3 oil changes, fuel is $.30-50 more per gallon, not to mention if you ever have a def/dpf failure or a turbo failure or injector failure or complete fuel system replacement (any of these sound familiar? I bet they do) then the cost of ownership is way out of balance. The diesel pulls a ton better. Trust me I know. Iโm a auto dealer and sell lots of 3/4 and 1 ton trucks so Iโve driven and used all of them in gas and diesel. If you pull over 10k lbs more than once a week I would go diesel. If you donโt, save yourself a bunch of money and time and buy the gas truck. Also, the gas truck, in my opinion is a better daily driver than a diesel.
โSep-30-2021 05:57 PM
โSep-30-2021 04:13 PM