โNov-11-2007 07:40 PM
I have per the request of a few members, stickied this post. Please note, this is not a place to argue whether a law makes sense or not, just what the laws are. If you have a question about wt laws, that appears to be NOT answered in some way shape or form, please ask, and hopefully some of the ACTUAL weights and measures LEO's will answer, or those with some actual knowledge.
In the mean time, I do thank the OP for starting this thread, altho I have taken the liberty to change the title to one I think and hope will be a bit more informative in name.
marty
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Hannibal wrote:
Me thinks this should become a sticky tomorrow morning, the second Tuesday. The question is valid and the answer is on the first page. As in all aspects of life, the facts are clouded in myth, hearsay and opinion but, the facts are still facts.
โNov-12-2007 07:32 AM
Hannibal wrote:
Me thinks this should become a sticky tomorrow morning, the second Tuesday. The question is valid and the answer is on the first page. As in all aspects of life, the facts are clouded in myth, hearsay and opinion but, the facts are still facts.
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โNov-12-2007 06:07 AM
jmramiller wrote:
It has been debated before but I have yet to see anyone with any enforcement experience comment on the subject.
adamrmathis wrote:
What would a LEO know about the law? LEO's only enforce it and they are subect to the same errors the rest of us are. Our lawyers and judges can't even decide on what is right or wrong, and now you want an opinion from a LEO? I'm no trying to bash any LEO's, just tring to point out that being a LEO doesn't make one correct.
โNov-12-2007 02:57 AM
blt2ski wrote:
.....wts and measures DOT WSP LEO officers inforce in Wa st. Those are the laws I have to follow as a commercial driver in my state, other states.......I will not comment, as I do not drive across state lines for work. THese laws also effect ALL vehicles on the road, be them commercial or RV. BUT< most DOT officers realize....
Marty
โNov-11-2007 11:28 PM
jmramiller wrote:
Good questions. My understanding is that AAM rates my rear axle at 10,800#s. GM then rates the axle down to 6084#s which is the tire rating total for the two stock tires on the rear axle.
So what you are suggesting is that where the code refers to the manufacturers rating that could mean AAM's rating as they manufactured the axle?
โNov-11-2007 10:38 PM
โNov-11-2007 10:02 PM
jmramiller wrote:Lobocop wrote:jmramiller wrote:Dale_S wrote:
Wasn't this debated in another thread and debated numerous times in the past?
It has been debated before but I have yet to see anyone with any enforcement experience comment on the subject. I have also never seen a citation posted related to door sticker ratings.It has several times highjacked other threads. This is why I have created a thread dedicated to the subject.
In short, I would like to finally put this one to bed by hearing from those who enforce the regs.
jmramiller ... I will try to respond to this in such a fashion as to not tinkle in anyones cornflakes.
Having 25 years in the field of Law Enforcement, and retiring as an Undersheriff, I will tell you that this question should be asked of Commercial Enforcement personnel, not street cops.
Short of something that is so blatantly in violation (VW towing a 30' toyhauler or a bumper dragging the ground) the average street cop wouldn't know there is a violation, and honestly, probably wouldn't care. They are not equipped to weigh vehicles and if they look at a door sticker it is typically for a VIN. In some states, such as Nevada, a few extra dollars into the DMV coffers will get your trucks registration changed for a higher weight limit anyway.
Typically, if a street cop, not assigned to commercial enforcement, issues a citation for being over weight to someone towing a travel trailer with a 3/4 or 1 ton truck ... it is because the driver opened his blow hole when he should have kept it shut. If someone did receive a cite for the violation there should be a statute or code violation listed on the cite specifying what the violation was.
Just my .02 worth.
Lobocop,
What about State Troopers? They are the one's who are supposedly manning these "weight traps". Would they issue these type of citations and enforce these type of regs. If so, know any that could give us some incite