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Is it normal to cut the roof supports?

wopachop
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Was on the roof resealing the lap sealant and noticed the shower dome was sinking. Couple days later i replaced the bathroom vent cover and see that they cut the actual roof support.

The previous owner claimed he knew the owner of Forest River and they custom made this trailer. I keep finding the most horrible construction practices known to man. I hear its normal with trailers but man....its bad. Spare tire literally gets jacked up into a sharp piece of metal that of course popped the tire. How did a worker actually do that without fear of losing his job?

This roof thing is the newest. They might have adjusted their normal layout which caused the shower to sit a foot back. So to install the dome above the shower they had to cut the roof support? Thats my guess. The previous owner said something about how they asked for more kitchen space to entertain people. That would push the bathroom back a bit.

Normal or total eff up?

In the picture the roof support is right along the roof vent. Then its completely cut off and removed so the shower dome can fit above it. I can move the support up and down with my hand.

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opnspaces
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Did you get the mouse?

For the plywood in the rear corner question; I'm assuming you're referring to the picture three posts up where you have the red arrows and asking about shimming.

I would also be nervous about cracking the skylight, but I would still go for it. First I would use a screw at each end of the crosspiece between the studs to better support the shims. Definitely predrill the screw holes as if you are toe nailing and drive a long screw into each end. Pictures 2-4 in the link

After you have two screws in it then carefully shim the roof back up flat.

For the sagging interior panel you can either use contact cement, or some small flat head screws. Small screws if covered by the interior panel. Contact cement if not covered by the panel.
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wopachop
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Thought i heard a mouse a couple weeks ago. Was the motivation to finally pull down the skylight lower portion.

What should i do about the plywood on the outside corner? The skylight is yellowed and i dont want to crack it.

CharlesinGA
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ItsyRV wrote:
I wish I had everyone's x-ray vision because I can't see any of the structure at and around the actual skylight to be able to draw any conclusion that something was or wasn't done. I honestly don't see anything messed up because I can't see anything but what is around the fan which may not be related to anything done round the skylight.


Its not cut at the vent, the truss is intact there. Follow the seam in the ceiling that is directly under the truss, it ends at the raised area above the shower, that is where the truss is cut.

Charles
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opnspaces
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I would shim.
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wopachop
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They used 1 staple and completely missed.


This is facing the outside wall. Should i shim the plywood back flat so that the skylight doesnt sink down at that spot? Or best to leave it since it was stapled and sealed in that position?

wopachop
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If possible lets focus on the construction aspect.

timmac
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wopachop wrote:


The previous owner claimed he knew the owner of Forest River and they custom made this trailer.


And you believed that story ??

:R

wopachop
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqhUvfw3wiE&list=UU9ZbHDTVWmMaqIBAVBakm4g&index=1

wopachop
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Im surprised people think the previous owner did the spare tire hack job. The tire has never been used (see the white line in the picture) and the manufacture date is 2012 on my 2013 trailer.

The sequence of events just doesnt make sense. He would have to notice the spare tire is hanging crooked because the edge of the tire is hitting a metal support. Then he would cut that metal support to make room. Leaving a sharp edge. Then actually crank the spare tire back up and not check to make sure that sharp point is not gouging into the tire?? Nah...no way. There is no amount of beer for someone to go through all that work and not check to see if that fresh sharp edge is cutting into the sidewall.

wopachop
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After the sale? That would require redoing the entire roof. Why would someone move a skylight 6 inches?

I dont think the spare tire issue was done by the previous owner. I sent him a pic when I discovered and he had no idea.

I think they welded it wrong at the factory. It not even parallel to the frame. Other metal supports are cut just as bad. They clearance out waaaaay too much. Cuts are all jagged.

ItsyRV
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dougrainer wrote:
I have no love for FR. BUT, to state this is DUMB. You and the OP and all others on these forums have no idea what has been done to this RV in 7 years. The OP is NOT the original owner and only the original owner has standing for complaints like this when it has no safety issues.

So true. Plus we have no idea if this was a factory install or was done after the sale by the owner or some hack. Based on the other photo, there seems to be some backyard modifications that occurred.
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dougrainer
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opnspaces wrote:
You just have to love how these companies stand behind their products.
If I was you I would pull that inner skylight down and see what's up in the attic. Maybe you'll get a surprise and the repair is easy and fast.


I have no love for FR. BUT, to state this is DUMB. You and the OP and all others on these forums have no idea what has been done to this RV in 7 years. The OP is NOT the original owner and only the original owner has standing for complaints like this when it has no safety issues. The OEM's have to be careful when they respond. The OP may have sent his questions to the wrong department at FR. Regardless, IF FR decides to respond, the OP will have to take his Unit to a FR authorized Service Center and have it evaluated. Which the OP will have to pay for. Until a FR Service center looks at the issue, FR will not do anything. This is true for almost all OEM's. They may give general answers, but nothing that will resolve the issue without a Service Center visit. Doug

rhagfo
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opnspaces wrote:
You just have to love how these companies stand behind their products.
If I was you I would pull that inner skylight down and see what's up in the attic. Maybe you'll get a surprise and the repair is easy and fast.


X2!
I would think one could fabricate a header between the two adjacent trusses out of 1/2" plywood. Attach to the two adjacent trusses with screws, then once lifted to correct height attach the cut truss.

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opnspaces
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You just have to love how these companies stand behind their products.
If I was you I would pull that inner skylight down and see what's up in the attic. Maybe you'll get a surprise and the repair is easy and fast.
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