Need new tires

[Bea_PA]

Need tires 225-75-R16 load E, what Toyos Mitchelin or others are you using? Got quote on Toyo Celcious Cargo and Open country and Mitchelin Cross Climate. Thx

[Grit_dog]

jy wrote:
Gritdog,If you look at the weight of all LT tires in the 225/75r16 size they all have a weight rating around 2500 lbs.The Toyos are 3195 lb weight rating.

That’s because the Toyos you are referencing are a different class of tire, a Commercial Tire.
They are designated with the letter C after the size but not to be confused with load range C.

But Toyo is not the only one that makes them. They are not unique to Toyo. You are just not comparing apples to apples by claiming Toyo is rated higher.
Tires load indexes are the same for a particular size and load class. I’m not actually aware of any differences. Yes you can get several different load ratings in the same size tire for many particular tire sizes. You could have a Pmetric/XL IE C load. Car tires, LT D and or E maybe F IE truck tires, and in a few sizes like the ones in question, there are commerical tires. Extra heavy duty for the euro style cargo vans like sprinters.
But you’ll never find an apples to apples tire comparison with different load ratings between brand or model name of tire.

[Grit_dog]

JaxDad wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
^Well I’m all about saving a buck. Any recommendations on what cheap offshore brands are actually good quality?
Not talking about brands like Kumho, Sailun and Hankook. I know those are good albeit moderately priced still.
I gotta buy my sister a set of tires here in short order. And they will be bottom of the barrel cost wise since it doesn’t make sense to put high $ tires on a car that could be in a junkyard or impounded tomorrow.

In commercial tires I would highly recommend Double Coin. Double Coin also makes Warrior brand car and light truck tires in a joint venture with Michelin.

Other brands I’d say were a safe bet would be Aeolus who make very good passenger and LT tires and Doublestar a more than 100 year old tire company.

Thanks!

[JaxDad]

Grit dog wrote:
^Well I’m all about saving a buck. Any recommendations on what cheap offshore brands are actually good quality?
Not talking about brands like Kumho, Sailun and Hankook. I know those are good albeit moderately priced still.
I gotta buy my sister a set of tires here in short order. And they will be bottom of the barrel cost wise since it doesn’t make sense to put high $ tires on a car that could be in a junkyard or impounded tomorrow.

In commercial tires I would highly recommend Double Coin. Double Coin also makes Warrior brand car and light truck tires in a joint venture with Michelin.

Other brands I’d say were a safe bet would be Aeolus who make very good passenger and LT tires and Doublestar a more than 100 year old tire company.

[SJ-Chris]

On my 30'+ Class C RVs I always put 225/75r16 COMMERCIAL (121) load rated tires. These each carry roughly 500lbs more than e-Load (115) rated tires. That's 2000lbs more weight buffer on the rear axle. I'm always surprised (disappointed) at how little weight buffer E-load rated tires have on the rear axle of a 30-31' Class C RV straight out of the manufacturers.

Note: You should never overload your axles. But all else being equal, I would rather have tires (Commercial 121 rated) that can carry 2000lbs extra. You never know when you might have a situation where they are slightly underinflated. Or you might have one get a leak and it takes some time to notice/etc (TPMS helps with this).

The last set I bought was from Big-O tires. I believe I paid ~$180/tire.

Good luck!
Chris

[bobndot]

I just found it. Toyo Celsius cargo tire.

Im confused reading these various weight ratings. Depending on what site you’re viewing the load index varies.
Some list it as 115 which is the same as the others at 2680. Discount Tire rated it higher at 3000 and change.

[bobndot]

jy wrote:
Gritdog,If you look at the weight of all LT tires in the 225/75r16 size they all have a weight rating around 2500 lbs.The Toyos are 3195 lb weight rating.

Need your help with the rating. 3195.
I see 2680 on Toyo models 225 75 16E’s. Cant find higher ratings .

[jy]

Gritdog,If you look at the weight of all LT tires in the 225/75r16 size they all have a weight rating around 2500 lbs.The Toyos are 3195 lb weight rating.

[Grit_dog]

^Well I’m all about saving a buck. Any recommendations on what cheap offshore brands are actually good quality?
Not talking about brands like Kumho, Sailun and Hankook. I know those are good albeit moderately priced still.
I gotta buy my sister a set of tires here in short order. And they will be bottom of the barrel cost wise since it doesn’t make sense to put high $ tires on a car that could be in a junkyard or impounded tomorrow.

[JaxDad]

Grit dog wrote:
Find the best priced reasonably good tires (IE no bargain brand no name bottom of the barrel tires like you see on the first page of Amazon searches) and call it good.

The trucking and agriculture industry (two where true economy is paramount) have learned that some of those offshore tires are actually superior to the ‘big brands’ in both performance and durability.

Offshore tires also seem to have far better UV resistance because the high annual mileage of typical North American means they’re bald long before they’re aged out, the opposite is true of Asian countries. The tires *must* last longer before they wear out or people just don’t buy them. A perfect setup for motorhomes that don’t do a lot of miles per year.

[Grit_dog]

phillyg wrote:
I've been disappointed the few times I strayed from Michelin.

And I’ve been disappointed the couple times I’ve ended up with Michelins.
Not saying I wouldn’t buy that brand again, as my experiences are older and with “OE equipment” tires which are often of lesser quality somehow… but I have yet to see the. As a best value in anything I’ve purchased tires for. JMO

[Grit_dog]

jy wrote:
Bea Pa,I also am shopping for tires.I have a 2017 winnebago 31g on a e450 chassis.I like the Toyo celsius cargo because they have the highest weight rating in the 225/75r16 size.Do you mind if I ask what your quote was for 6 of them mounted and balanced.

Just to clarify, tire brand/model of tire has nothing to do with weight rating. Size/load ratings are largely if not wholly universal across all brands.
Of course there are other factors that define quality, but load rating by brand is not one of them.

[Valpo_Camper]

My Class C came with the Michelins and they lasted WAY WAY longer than the recommendations said they should have, beyond 10 years and never had a blow out but I was not about to pay that price for them as a replacement. Went to Discount Tire and had an inexpensive set put on as we do less than 3,000 miles a year.

This past weekend I had to do a panic stop 60 to zero towing our Wrangler in the rain. They grabbed very well, no sliding, kept just off the edge of skidding and the rig and toad stayed straight. Brake Buddy was grabbing the Jeep brakes as well.

I think they are Mastercraft tires.

[phillyg]

I've been disappointed the few times I strayed from Michelin.

[jy]

Bea Pa,I also am shopping for tires.I have a 2017 winnebago 31g on a e450 chassis.I like the Toyo celsius cargo because they have the highest weight rating in the 225/75r16 size.Do you mind if I ask what your quote was for 6 of them mounted and balanced.