Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

[juzplanekrazy]

I don’t know if it’s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
I’m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but I’m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
I’ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ¾ ton and up and I’ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Let’s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we go……

TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver – KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs

[powerboatr]

empty
see sig
F/A 4620 R/A 4160 GW 8780
Hooked up
F/A 4680 R/A 7460 RV Axles 11,900 3300 pin wt. Gvwr 13870, notice i am 15200 for gvwr, Yep got an Ok from lippert as long as we dont exceed 15500. the axles are the weakest link they are a pair of 6k's .
24040 all hooked up or 1960 lbs to be at GCVWR for the truck

rv 2006 cedar creek 11200 empty
tv 2006 ford 350 crew cab dually(tow boss 26k gvwr) 4.30 rear gears

this is with all our full time gear and 1/3 water (28) gallons

[N3YMY]

I've pulled this camper with two trucks, so I have data for both.

Detailed, but simple:

2006 Keystone Cougar 289EFS (twin axle)
4400 GAWR (per axle)
10345 GVWR

8355 Claimed dry GVW (includes pin)
1500 Claimed dry pin
9020 Scaled GVW at delivery (with full water; 45 gals; includes pin)
1460 Scaled pin at delivery

Pulled by 2002 Ford F350 7.3L XLT DRW LB:
4970 Front GAWR
8200 Rear GAWR
11500 GVWR
20000 CGWR

No camper (with driver only)
4980 Front GAW
3880 Rear GAW

With camper (with driver +1; ready to camp)
4980 Front GAW, truck
5700 Rear GAW, truck
4040 Front GAW, camper
3860 Rear GAW, camper
10680 Truck GVW (limit 11500)
7900 Camper CGAW (limit 8800)
18580 CGVW (limit 20000)

Pulled by 2006 GMC Sierra D/A SLT DRW LB:
4800 Front GAWR
8200 Rear GAWR
11400 GVWR
23500 CGWR

No camper (with driver only)
4260 Front GAW
3160 Rear GAW

With camper (with driver +1; ready to camp)
4680 Front GAW, truck
5520 Rear GAW, truck
4260 Front GAW, camper
4180 Rear GAW, camper
10200 Truck GVW (limit 11400)
8440 Camper CGAW (limit 8800)
18640 CGVW (limit 23500)

Actual wet pin with the GMC is 1840; never measured with the Ford...

[AZSTORK]

Actual CAT Scale weights:
TV = 2005 F-350 Lariat 4x4 CrewCab Long Bed SRW with 80-90 gal Diesel, driver, Hitch Front 4940 Rear 3720 Total 8660

2005 McKenzie Medallion 36RLT 70 gal water, full propane, empty waste tanks, "normal" gear hitched to truck Front 4940 Rear 6600 Trailer Axles 11500

Thus, Pin weight = 2880, Total trailer weight = 14380

GCVW = 23040 GCVWR = 23000

So I was over by 40 pounds - I now travel with less fuel and empty water - will be looking at an F-450 when we go full-time - I would like more capacity and DRW.

[Bad_Habit]

Truck is with me, wife, 2 kids, and full fuel (39 gal)
Trailer is no liquids, 4 quads, all gear, food/beverage for 3 days

Truck 05 F350 CC DRW 4WD 6.0 Auto
Trailer 02 Thor Tahoe 33WTB


Truck Only Weight Rating Over/Under
Front Axle 4960 6000 -1040
Rear Axle 3700 9000 -5300

Truck GVW 8660 13000 -4340



Truck & Trailer
Front Axle 5000 6000 -1000
Rear Axle 5840 9000 -3160
Trailer Axle(s) 7860 12000 -4140

Truck GVW 10840 13000 -2160
Trailer GVW 10040 13500 -3460

Hitch Pin 2180

Total (GCVW) 18700 23500 -4800


BTW, I've made an excel spreadsheet that you just enter your ratings, and the actual axle weights. Anyone can get the ratings off the truck/trailer stickers and the weights off the scale ticket. Calcs the pin weight and over/under (gives a green/yellow/red indicator). It would probably help anyone that gets confused from all the different numbers. If anyone would like it, just hit me up.

[donn0128]

Last rig;
2004 Chevy 4X4 extended cab D/A weight ready to camp minus trailer 7500 pounds
Loaded with trailer 10,500 pounds
Trailer 2005 Cedar Creek 34CKTS fifth wheel weight on the wheels 10,350
New truck;
2007 Dodge quad cab Cummins/6 speed automatic Down the road ready to camp weight 6900 pounds Hooked to the trailer 10,300 pounds.
All weights from state of Oregon truck scales.

[RogerMo]

2005 Chevy Silverado 2x4, 6.0 engine, 4.10 rear in. Weight 6400 full tank, 2 people.
2007 Jayco Jayflight RKS 28.5 ft. Weight 8620 for my travel
can go to 9200
Total 15,020 can go to 16,500

[SKOOBDO]

After recalculating my CAT Scale receipts the following numbers are the results. Both TV and Trailer were loaded for fulltiming, including 3/4 water, fuel, and propane.

Tow Vehicle: 2006 F350 Diesel DWR CC 4x4 4:10 gears
Actual Weight: 8,520 lbs
GVWR 13,000lbs GCVW 23,500lbs


Trailer: 2006 Montana 38ft. Actual Weight 13,960 lbs
GVWR 13,855

Pin Weight: 2,720 lbs
Manf. Brochure "Dry Hitch Weight" 1885 lbs

TOTAL Weight of Trailer and Truck: 22,480 lbs


Since weighing my unit I've removed a bunch of junk, but haven't had it weighed again.

[Bluegrass_Bassm]

It certainly would be beneficial to see the actual, operating weights to include PIN weights vs the listed weights from the manufacturer on any given rig.

[JohnOH327]

TV
2004 Chevy 4500 Kodiak w/Monroe pickup bed
6.6 Duramax, 5 speed Allison, Edge w/ Attitude programmer
100 gal fuel cap., AirRide hitch, lots of tools
Scale weight with 2 people...11200 lbs.

Trailer
2003 Holiday Rambler Presidential 36SKQ 37 ft.
Generac 40g gen-set, W/D, 4 battery bank.
5 x 8 swivel wheel motorcycle trailer mounted behind 5th wheel.

Motorcycle
1986 Honda 1100 Shadow

Total Scale Weight for truck and trailer....30,000 lbs OUCH !!!!!

[portscanner]

How about a smaller trailer?

F250 Crew Cab 6' bed 6.0PSD
Work and Play 18LT

Weighed on the way out on the trip with DW, dogs, food, fuel, water, golf cart and beer.

Front axle: 3740
Rear axle: 3240 (unhitched)
Tongue: 1220
Trailer axle: 6280

From the door post on the F250:
GVWR 8800
Front 4670 GAWR
Rear 6084 GAWR

From the sticker on the trailer
GVWR 7700
UVW 4560

We are about to go buy a WW SL2805. I will post the weights when I get it.

[CarNDen]

TV: 06 Silverado 2500HD Crew Cab 2WD, LT1, 6 Litre (gas), Automatic,
4.10 Rear, 6.5Ft bed, Factory Tow pkg, Reese 16K Slider hitch.
GCVWR 16,000
Listed Max Trailer Weight 10,100
Truck Wt 6,328 (2 people, 2 Dogs, 2 Birds)
Actual max Trailer Weight 9,672

Trailer: 06 Cougar 291RLS 5th Wheel
GVWR 11,000
Listed Dry Wt 8,125
As Delivered Dry wt 8,375
Listed Carry Capacity 2,875
As Delivered Carry Capacity 2,191

Our Actual wts (typical 2 day outing)
Gross Combined Wt 15,580
TV Front Axle wt 3,440
TV Drive Axle wt 4,680
Trailer Axle Wt 7,460
Trailer Wt 9,252
Pin Wt 1,792

[elwood1944]

07 Chev 2500HD 6.0 scale weight Steering 3760,Drive 4320,& Jayco JayFlight 27.5 RKS 5ver 6780 Gross 14860-- Truck only Steering 3760
Drive 2780 Gross 6540

[pioneerclaims]

I haven't done the weights separately, but my 2006 Chevy 1500 HD, four door 2wd with 6.0 gasoline engine, 8.8kw generator in truck bed, with six 7-gallon gas cans (full), tank of gas, pulling my Colorado 32QB-M5-BS fifth wheel, with all the food, clothing, etc. (but empty tanks) crossed the scales at just over 18,700 pounds total weight of the combination truck/trailer.

[juzplanekrazy]

Wow Frank a sticky...........Nice:)
I hope we get a lot of input this weekend. So go out and weigh those truck & trailers this weekend guys:B

[sirdrakejr]

We are now a "sticky". :B

And many are NOT overweight.:B
But this is NOT to go there but to see what people are towing with, what they are towing and how that affects their weights. So, no more comments about how others seem to be.
Frank