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Problem is some people think a 1 ton dually can do anything even if a camper (or whatever) manuf says it won’t! Sad that they have to be the ones to fix it for the people that don’t get it! But still good for them.
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Grit dog on 03/14/23 12:46pm wrote:What’s funny is how all this is “news” to so many, especially those who are into the TC thing and profess some decent level of comprehension.
RVing is one of those basically unregulated industries where folks who have no business getting behind the wheel of something that isn’t just a normal passenger vehicle have free reign to be as dumb as their pocketbook or credit score allows.
There’s a reason that 10klbs is the magic point where commercial vehicles and combinations begin being regulated by the USDOT. And it’s because people who have to take 3 attempts to put their Prius into a normal parking spot and still can’t get it centered, shouldn’t have the right to just hop into a vehicle or combination weighing 5-20 tons and just drive by “braille.”
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jimh406 wrote:I'm not sure what you are thinking is offload. My truck/tc has been on gravel/dirt roads and forest service roads. The real off-road trailers that I've seen that look durable aren't cheap either.
I still have the option to tow, and fit in a single parking space for the most part. I also can take the TC off and use it as a truck. No vehicle with TT can also tow and fit in a parking space. Of course, a TC can also turnaround where almost no TT and vehicle could.
For "real" off-road, I think you are moving into SUV/truck with rooftop tent or lighter popup, but then, the onroad "camping" experience is degraded.
We've been on dirt roads with travel trailer and 5er. Generally avoid forest roads unless familiar more due to branches rather then 4x4ing. Wouldn't change with a monster 13ft tall truck camper.
As you indicated a small pop-up camper makes more sense is going truly into the back country.
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It is obvious all us camp differently. Some are happy wiith 500 lbs of gear while other campers are pushing 7000 lbs. You need to know how much you are carrying and adjust what you carry or change vehicles to do it safely. No one should be telling you one method is better than the other. Keep conversation civil or you will put this thread into lock.
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Ahhh the age old questions that nobody ever seems to agree on:
What is a road?
What is 'off road'?
What is a 'jeep trail'?
Roads come in many flavors. Everything from very smooth paved interstate highways to secondary roads (with and without potholes) to well/not groomed gravel (with and without potholes) to flat dirt to uneven/rutted and potholed dirt.
My personal dividing line is that if it is on a ROAD MAP (or USGS map) I call it a road. If not, it must be something else.
IMHO that OEM trucks are simply NOT designed to be hauling +4KLBS down jeep trails and creek beds.
Of course that does not stop anyone from doing it.
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Bedlam wrote:No one should be telling you one method is better than the other.
Of course, that's not what the "deleted" posts were about.
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StirCrazy
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Grit dog wrote:
There’s a reason that 10klbs is the magic point where commercial vehicles and combinations begin being regulated by the USDOT. And it’s because people who have to take 3 attempts to put their Prius into a normal parking spot and still can’t get it centered, shouldn’t have the right to just hop into a vehicle or combination weighing 5-20 tons and just drive by “braille.”
we have simular in BC. bit it on ly aplied to towed rv's, when you hit 10800lbs (or there abouts) you need to do a pretrip exam and a towing exame to get your house trailer endorsment on your licence to be able to tow that heavy. or you can go with the comercial heavy tow endorsment or class 1 covers it also. a lot of places don't have that though.
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StirCrazy
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Bedlam wrote:It is obvious all us camp differently. Some are happy wiith 500 lbs of gear while other campers are pushing 7000 lbs.
I have a 10.5 foot camper that weighs 2600lbs wet, and loard for camping I am right at 3000lbs.. I have a hard time understanding what people take to make it weight that much haha.. now my 5th wheel I probably do have 1500lbs of "stuff" but where would you put all that in a truck camper.
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StirCrazy wrote:Bedlam wrote:It is obvious all us camp differently. Some are happy wiith 500 lbs of gear while other campers are pushing 7000 lbs.
I have a 10.5 foot camper that weighs 2600lbs wet, and loard for camping I am right at 3000lbs.. I have a hard time understanding what people take to make it weight that much haha.. now my 5th wheel I probably do have 1500lbs of "stuff" but where would you put all that in a truck camper.
I can give you a list. Heaviest would be food. I travel usually for several weeks or months in remote areas and try to keep at least 2 weeks of food on hand. My foam mattress probably added 50# over the cheap OEM mattress. Next would be a generator and fuel, air compressor, tools, extension cords, bedding/blankets, pots/pans/plates/etc, camera gear, computer, travel guides and reading materials, 3 seasons worth of clothing, cleaning/laundry supplies, lawn chairs, folding table, water and sewer hoses, extra blankets, water pitcher with filters, toiletries, towels, small electric heater, 12v fan, cpap and DI water jug, black water chemicals, flashlights/lantern/batteries, day pack and hydration pack, water bottles, medications and emergency first aid kit, rope/cord/duct tape, levelling blocks..... I am sure there is a lot more but those are what I could think of quickly as I typed.
There are also a couple of heavy items I added as accessories including 2 solar panels and 2 very oversized AGM batteries. I would guess those added 300# by themselves. You also need to be sure that the accessories that came with the RV are also included in the wet weight specs from manufacturer. Mine left off some important items such as awning, A/C, microwave and several hundred more pounds for the "extended" over cab option to accommodate a north south mattress.
With all of that the two thousand plus wet weigh spec from the manufacturer topped out at over 4000# when loaded for travel and that does not include passengers.
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StirCrazy wrote:Bedlam wrote:It is obvious all us camp differently. Some are happy wiith 500 lbs of gear while other campers are pushing 7000 lbs.
I have a 10.5 foot camper that weighs 2600lbs wet, and loard for camping I am right at 3000lbs.. I have a hard time understanding what people take to make it weight that much haha.. now my 5th wheel I probably do have 1500lbs of "stuff" but where would you put all that in a truck camper.
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