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pianotuna wrote:Silverado now starts at 70,000
Trucks have become really expensive and unfortunatly I don't think we have any EV truck that can replace current ICEs for most cases.
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pianotuna wrote:Silverado now starts at 70,000
Random post….but I’ll have whatever you’re havin….
Because if you’re talkin loonies then more like $50k in real dollars which is also 1000% false.
Lots of new 1/2 tons priced in the $30s even some quad cab 4wd models.
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map40 wrote:
Trucks have become really expensive and unfortunatly I don't think we have any EV truck that can replace current ICEs for most cases.
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map40 wrote:pianotuna wrote:Silverado now starts at 70,000
Trucks have become really expensive and unfortunatly I don't think we have any EV truck that can replace current ICEs for most cases.
Good morning.
I’ll agree with that to some degree. Most half tons are used in more of an SUV that can bring a few bags of soil home role. Or maybe just haul a utility trailer to the dump with a load of leaves etc. The upcoming crop of electric half tons seem to do this fine. And the second generation e-half tons will be a big jump over ford lightnings etc.
I do think the shape of half tons will have to change though. This boxy square approach with no aerodynamics will fade as their upcoming more aero designed competition will kick then to the curb.
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pianotuna wrote:Silverado now starts at 70,000
What?
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Danger Don wrote:pianotuna wrote:Silverado now starts at 70,000
What?
He might have been talking about the electric silverado. I heard they are pricey although I haven’t seen any pricing yet. Think they are out next year…but not sure.
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I simply googled silverado and took the first price that popped up. The point I was trying to make is that 28,000 is now an impossible low price for a new Silverado.
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pianotuna wrote:I simply googled silverado and took the first price that popped up. The point I was trying to make is that 28,000 is now an imposibley low price for a new Silverado. That is only because the market is messed up at the moment. With a base MSRP of 36K if/when the market returns to normal, a good deal could be 28K
Remember the days of getting invoice or below pricing? When I bought my 2020. I did not pay anywhere close to MSRP
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Reisender wrote:map40 wrote:pianotuna wrote:Silverado now starts at 70,000
Trucks have become really expensive and unfortunatly I don't think we have any EV truck that can replace current ICEs for most cases.
Good morning.
I’ll agree with that to some degree. Most half tons are used in more of an SUV that can bring a few bags of soil home role. Or maybe just haul a utility trailer to the dump with a load of leaves etc. The upcoming crop of electric half tons seem to do this fine. And the second generation e-half tons will be a big jump over ford lightnings etc.
I do think the shape of half tons will have to change though. This boxy square approach with no aerodynamics will fade as their upcoming more aero designed competition will kick then to the curb.
Jmho.
A good point. A lot of trucks are really not used as trucks, so why should they be one. Like SUVs became more cars than trucks, trucks can be more efficient if their use as trucks is only going to be infrequent.
I still have my 2008 Chrysler Town & Country minivan that can haul as much as a truck but is much more efficient. And as I have a lifetime warranty bumper to bumper I will never get ride of it.
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Huntindog wrote:pianotuna wrote:I simply googled silverado and took the first price that popped up. The point I was trying to make is that 28,000 is now an imposibley low price for a new Silverado. That is only because the market is messed up at the moment. With a base MSRP of 36K if/when the market returns to normal, a good deal could be 28K
Remember the days of getting invoice or below pricing? When I bought my 2020. I did not pay anywhere close to MSRP
Meh, you tend to see a lot of people who “claim” trucks are sooo much more than they “used to be…”
And of course the Covid charges had/have raised prices unnaturally. But that’s quickly going away. If you look at all the big discounts again on many models.
And it’s usually people who either don’t understand the differences between the vehicles of the “good old days” and modern vehicles and those who just can’t afford a big ole new truck who are looking for something to blame for that.
It’s funny, no one would question the differences between a Big Mac meal and a ribeye from Ruth’s Chris, whether they can afford the steak or not, the recognition that while both are dinner, one is far more capable and luxurious than the other. But when it comes to vehicles, many seem to not be able to comprehend that the most basic work truck half ton offered today has twice the power, twice the longevity and 1000% MORE features than a comparable truck from the “good ole days.” Actually given the differences and accounting for average inflation, not a lot of difference trying to stay apples to apples.
If you’d like a half ton 1 wheeler peeler with 157hp, some good vapor lock on the Ike in Numy and a transmission that needs to be rebuilt every 60m miles with some sweet drum brakes, an AM radio and roll your own windows I’m sure the mfgs could make one for less money…..but in the meantime you’re stuck with 300hp and a 10 speed trans with $thousands in safety and convenience features for $30k….
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