ktmrfs
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Given that GM, Ford and Dodge now make very fine and reliable transmissions for the HD trucks, who really cares who makes them? I don't, I'm just glad that all 3 mfg have excellent diesel engines and excellent transmission to go with them.
Pick what you like best.
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FishOnOne
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Me Again wrote:FishOnOne wrote:
I didn't go any further than the video with the GM engineer.
So you drank the coolaid, and did not get to the park about first guy outside the GM/Allison bubble to tear down the new transmission. It is called cherry picking details.
The devil is in the details.
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ktmrfs wrote:Given that GM, Ford and Dodge now make very fine and reliable transmissions for the HD trucks, who really cares who makes them? I don't, I'm just glad that all 3 mfg have excellent diesel engines and excellent transmission to go with them.
Pick what you like best.
These are ALL the DETAILS one needs today!
None of us are replacing 3 and 4 spd auto transmissions like clockwork every 30K miles as I did with some of the TH400 and early 4l80e transmissions! CLutches lasted me 80-90K miles. I have over 125K on the one in my Navistar......
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Me Again wrote:FishOnOne wrote:
I didn't go any further than the video with the GM engineer.
So you drank the coolaid, and did not get to the part about first guy outside the GM/Allison bubble to tear down the new transmission. It is called cherry picking details.
So you link up and refer to a post by some unknown person on another forum, that claims some other unknown person was the first to ever tear down a 10L1000 other than someone associated with GM, then have the nerve to accuse others who watched a video by a GM engineer in the link posted by you of cherry picking details and drinking rhe Kool-Aid? ROFLMAO...... That's pretty rich. At least you could take the time to spell Kool-Aid correctly.
Kraft licensed to use the Kool-Aid name!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kool-Aid
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I am just happy they are putting a 10 speed behind the gasser. I don't tow more than 8000lbs ever. I tow my 7500lbs load travel trailer and a Parade float for the local Submarine Veterans which comes in at about 6800lbs. Plus I plan on going to a smaller/lighter trailer here in the next 2 to 4 years. So my gas 1 ton is fine. I was waiting for the 6.6 gasser to get more gears and a different transmission than my 2017 3500HD. In 2 years, I will probably be at 50,000 miles on the 17. No need to get rid of it but I will certainly look at the 2024s now as it will most likely be my last truck because on a heavy year I put 3500 miles on it. I am not a truck guy, so I don't daily drive it.
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ls1mike wrote:I am just happy they are putting a 10 speed behind the gasser.
Don't get too happy too quick. The in house experts will be along shortly to inform you it's not a real Allison, and probably that it's only an 8 speed labled as a 10 speed.
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Cummins12V98 wrote:4x4ord wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:Let's make this perfectly CLEAR. The trans in the current GM's are only "BRANDED ALLISON". Makes me all warm and fuzzy.
RAM has a Chrysler trans and AISIN MD trans. Ford has its own HD trans. No smoke and mirrors with either of them.
I'm not going to accuse Ram of using smoke and mirrors but I'm pretty sure if Ram came out with an eight speed tranny to stick behind the HO Cummins they wouldn't need the Aisin name to sell it.
I agree. But reality is the Cummins does not need more gears.
I never heard of Asin until some one here started throwing that name around like it was important.
I am now on my 3rd Allison truck. They have all been great.
Remember, GM was the first to put a RELIABLE auto trans, in a heavy duty truck.
That forced the others to step up their game.
It used to be common to need a tranny rebuild at 70-80K.
You all should be thankful to GM.
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Huntindog wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:4x4ord wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:Let's make this perfectly CLEAR. The trans in the current GM's are only "BRANDED ALLISON". Makes me all warm and fuzzy.
RAM has a Chrysler trans and AISIN MD trans. Ford has its own HD trans. No smoke and mirrors with either of them.
I'm not going to accuse Ram of using smoke and mirrors but I'm pretty sure if Ram came out with an eight speed tranny to stick behind the HO Cummins they wouldn't need the Aisin name to sell it.
I agree. But reality is the Cummins does not need more gears.
I never heard of Asin until some one here started throwing that name around like it was important.
I am now on my 3rd Allison truck. They have all been great.
Remember, GM was the first to put a RELIABLE auto trans, in a heavy duty truck.
That forced the others to step up their game.
It used to be common to need a tranny rebuild at 70-80K.
You all should be thankful to GM.
I think the Duramax/Allison certainly did pave the way to more powerful pickup trucks but my 2003 Duramax put out more than its Allison could handle.
Here's an interesting article:
How much Abuse can the Allison take
How much abuse can the Ford transmission take.
Ford must have pretty good confidence in their 10R140 to warrant it behind a 1200 lbft Powerstroke.
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Huntindog wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:4x4ord wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:Let's make this perfectly CLEAR. The trans in the current GM's are only "BRANDED ALLISON". Makes me all warm and fuzzy.
RAM has a Chrysler trans and AISIN MD trans. Ford has its own HD trans. No smoke and mirrors with either of them.
I'm not going to accuse Ram of using smoke and mirrors but I'm pretty sure if Ram came out with an eight speed tranny to stick behind the HO Cummins they wouldn't need the Aisin name to sell it.
I agree. But reality is the Cummins does not need more gears.
I never heard of Asin until some one here started throwing that name around like it was important.
I am now on my 3rd Allison truck. They have all been great.
Remember, GM was the first to put a RELIABLE auto trans, in a heavy duty truck.
That forced the others to step up their game.
It used to be common to need a tranny rebuild at 70-80K.
You all should be thankful to GM.
I don't think Chrysler got the notice from GM. Perhaps the reason why is they were in one of their multiple owners/organization changes. Can't say which one, there's been so many that I lost track. Currently under the French rule of law.
Combined mileage for my current and previous Super Duty is 430,000 miles and the transmissions are so good I don't even think about them nor do I add aftermarket transmission pans and take pictures of the internal fluid to share to the world.
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Huntindog
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4x4ord wrote:Huntindog wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:4x4ord wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:Let's make this perfectly CLEAR. The trans in the current GM's are only "BRANDED ALLISON". Makes me all warm and fuzzy.
RAM has a Chrysler trans and AISIN MD trans. Ford has its own HD trans. No smoke and mirrors with either of them.
I'm not going to accuse Ram of using smoke and mirrors but I'm pretty sure if Ram came out with an eight speed tranny to stick behind the HO Cummins they wouldn't need the Aisin name to sell it.
I agree. But reality is the Cummins does not need more gears.
I never heard of Asin until some one here started throwing that name around like it was important.
I am now on my 3rd Allison truck. They have all been great.
Remember, GM was the first to put a RELIABLE auto trans, in a heavy duty truck.
That forced the others to step up their game.
It used to be common to need a tranny rebuild at 70-80K.
You all should be thankful to GM.
I think the Duramax/Allison certainly did pave the way to more powerful pickup trucks but my 2003 Duramax put out more than its Allison could handle.
Here's an interesting article:
How much Abuse can the Allison take
How much abuse can the Ford transmission take.
Ford must have pretty good confidence in their 10R140 to warrant it behind a 1200 lbft Powerstroke.
What I get out of both links is a saying that we used a lot when I was on a sprint car race team.
"Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?"
Leave any of the trucks stock, and one avoids a lot of trouble/expense.
If you wanna play, you gotta pay.
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