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jarata1

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Posted: 05/08/20 05:15pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We are being cautious now that things are starting to open we are heading out of az and heading north

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This discussion/argument has gone on in an untold number of threads, and neither side is going to convince the other to change.

There's one side that is unwilling to venture outside of home unless absolutely necessary and don't want to open up anything until the virus is eradicated and there is a vaccine. Regardless of what we learn along the way that might enlighten people and should cause some to rethink.

Then there's the group that looks at things a little more objectively, and don't apply a one size fits all solution. It's not that folks on this side don't care, or don't have any concerns, it's just that you can't freeze everything in time and hide inside until this thing goes away.

It's pretty telling when over half of the deaths occur in the highest population areas, despite the direction to stay at home. 5000 deaths alone based on a decision to direct assisted living homes that they must, by law, admit COVID patients. Talk about criminal!

For those of you who feel that the only way people on the other side will believe is if something happens to someone close to them, well, I view that as lashing out because we don't agree with you. It has nothing to do with whether or not we believe this virus is real, but again, there's not a one size fits all approach.

No one yet has made a single convincing argument about why it's dangerous or selfish to go camping in a state park that is open, and more than ample space to exceed all social distancing requirements. The argument about contact along the way is a ridiculous one, especially when you can make it to your destination on one tank of fuel. And I am quite sure the same people who don't want to go anywhere do fuel up locally (although clearly not as much.

In the end, each side is right in their mind, and each one is wrong in the others mind.

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Posted: 05/08/20 06:22pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Everybody go outside and go camping, it's safer out there than staying home. NY Gov Cuomo found out that 66% of the new covid patients in his state came from home while 18% came from nursing homes. Time magazine published a story that said wearing a mask protects others from you, not you from them. If you're sick then wear a mask. If you're not sick wearing a mask ain't gonna help. Just repeating what the story said.

I have also recently found, through camping and interacting with others, that people with military, police, and fire backgrounds are most likely NOT to be scared to death by this flu bug. The rest of the population are petrified of dying from this bug that has over a 98% chance rate of recovery. When this mess is over and cooler heads prevail I bet is we'll all see that this beer bug wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be.


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magicbus wrote:

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I am a 25 year Law Enforcement veteran and none of us at my 138+ sworn member agency are wearing masks while on duty.
While I truly appreciate your service, if you decided to approach me you would be hard-pressed to get me to interact. I would not appreciate your lack of care for my well-being.

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Inappropriate and misguided comment Dave. We are taking all appropriate measures including having you call in your reports instead of face to face contact.


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Andy F wrote:

magicbus wrote:

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I am a 25 year Law Enforcement veteran and none of us at my 138+ sworn member agency are wearing masks while on duty.
While I truly appreciate your service, if you decided to approach me you would be hard-pressed to get me to interact. I would not appreciate your lack of care for my well-being.

Dave


Inappropriate and misguided comment Dave. We are taking all appropriate measures including having you call in your reports instead of face to face contact.


Why didn't you say so in the first place instead of sounding aggrieved post haste?

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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Andy F wrote:

magicbus wrote:

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I am a 25 year Law Enforcement veteran and none of us at my 138+ sworn member agency are wearing masks while on duty.
While I truly appreciate your service, if you decided to approach me you would be hard-pressed to get me to interact. I would not appreciate your lack of care for my well-being.

Dave


Inappropriate and misguided comment Dave. We are taking all appropriate measures including having you call in your reports instead of face to face contact.


Why didn't you say so in the first place instead of sounding aggrieved post haste?


Somebody needs some fresh air. LOL

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We were planning a trip to the northeast to depart June7th. I have already canceled reservations. I believe we can be as safe traveling as at home, perhaps more so. A trip to the store was scary-the people not keeping safe distance, not wearing mask or gloves. Store not keeping carts and door handles clean. We normally travel with another couple. Both of our coaches are ready to depart.

We will depart as soon as the COE and federal/state parks open for camping.

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Wear a mask and stay at least six feet away from other people. Most of us are retired folks and over fifty, so it seems like the virus hits the elderly more then the teenagers, even though we have had several young people dying from the Coronavirus. So use common sense and don't do as our politician suggest. There are the minority that will believe anything, like the person in Kansas that injested Clorox and ended up in the ER. We are not in any rush, we are in our stick house very safe and comfortable. Would like to travel, but most the National parks and even our private resorts are still close. So I am hoping maybe by August things might be under control with the virus. Lots of people are starting to run out of money and are worried about the losses in the stock market, but is it worth your life?
Be smart and use the Lysol for sterilizing the places you touch the most on your motor home.


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azdryheat wrote:

NY Gov Cuomo was just on the news saying, of the recent covid hospitalizations in his state, 66% of the patients came from home while 18% came from nursing homes. My math says that works out to 84% of patients have been in "lock down". Seems to me that staying home, as everyone is telling us to do, is the leading cause of contracting the covid virus. Maybe the CDC doesn't know every thing.

If you don't want to go outside then don't. But don't get on me and others for our decision to go camping and venture outside, to live our lives. It's still a free country despite what some want us to believe.


I agree that if that is what you want to do, GO FOR IT! And go to a party where everybody there want their freedom and hug each other and we will watch to see what happens to you guys. White house did not believe either, now it has hit home and everybody is wearing masks (except) you know who. Tough guy!

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