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Crowe

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Posted: 10/17/19 06:50pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Crowe, I thought you were "done" with this suspected troll thread.

It's a woman's prerogative to change her mind! [emoticon] I'm amazed this thread's lasted this long. It's a "he said/she said" type of situation where there's no right or wrong.


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Posted: 10/17/19 06:55pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

WOW... allI can say is wow.....

Some folks are getting out of control with this thread, You might thing its political ??

And to think, it all started by a troll.... who wins here ?

It really is simple... The owner has the RIGHT to make rules, WE have the right to decide if we want to stay there or not..

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Posted: 10/17/19 07:31pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Crowe wrote:

I'm amazed this thread's lasted this long. It's a "he said/she said" type of situation where there's no right or wrong.


As long as people stay (somewhat) civil, a good back and forth is healthy for the forum.

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Posted: 10/17/19 07:52pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

am1958 wrote:

Westernrvparkowner:

Pray tell the address of your park so I can avoid being hosted by such an aggressive, crass and, frankly, boring individual as yourself. You seem to be the kind of chap that has wonderful grassy sites in your park and then walks around yelling "Get off my lawn!!!!"

The melted tables, burned trashcans etc. you mention are, undoubtedly, the facts of life in your business. A smart person factors in such damage to the price of their sites per night. That's a good business model. Your business model appears to be keep the price down sufficiently to attract punters in and then when they get there they find the camp is more of a concentration camp because you have a million silly little rules designed to save/make you money while sucking the very life out of them.
Nothing would please me more than sucking the very life out of a few of the posters here. I take offense when my policies are called "asinine" because that is saying I make asinine decisions. I find the word "asinine" to offense. Funny that these forums feel that the use of the word "Geezer" is offensive enough to close the thread yet allow posts where people are calling the actions of others "asinine". People are free to make any decision they want, and if those decisions don't cause actual harm to some one or some thing I would never consider those decisions to be asinine.
I work diligently to avoid things like melted tables to keep my expenses in check. Any costs due to damage is eventually passed on to all the guests in the form of higher rates. So it is in the best interests of the vast majority of my guests to prevent those damages and costs. It is pretty apparent you are one of those people who feel that paying a site fee allows you to do whatever you want, damaging property included, and let the costs incurred be borne by the park owner and future guests. My policies are constructed to specifically exclude such guests be it either by them making the decision to go elsewhere or by using those rules to send them packing. Thanks to your post, I bet a few more people will see the wisdom of those policies.

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Posted: 10/17/19 08:24pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Not sure what I would do if i couldn't have some sort of camp fire whether it be in the woods or a high end resort or a casino parking lot.
It's so relaxing and you can have smores and some weiners
I'll just stay at the places that can satisfy my needs
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It is pretty apparent you are one of those people who feel that paying a site fee allows you to do whatever you want, damaging property included, and let the costs incurred be borne by the park owner and future guests.


Absolutely not. I pick up the trash left by others and leave none of my own. My fires are well made and tended. When I leave a site I leave it better than I found it. Most campers do do such things. You, on the other hand, are clearly of the opinion that you need to dumb everything down for everyone. Possibly because it makes your life easier not to have to go and visit sites when people have left and see what they have done. If they have damaged stuff charge them for it. It's not rocket science but it does take some additional work...

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Absolutely not. I pick up the trash left by others and leave none of my own. My fires are well made and tended. When I leave a site I leave it better than I found it. Most campers do do such things. You, on the other hand, are clearly of the opinion that you need to dumb everything down for everyone. Possibly because it makes your life easier not to have to go and visit sites when people have left and see what they have done. If they have damaged stuff charge them for it. It's not rocket science but it does take some additional work...


Once I'm gone how is he going to charge me?
And if somebody sees your fire, and decides "I can do better!" and their bonfire distorts the siding on your camper? Hard to pin down another guest, but your lawyer can find the park owner.
Personally, I like to have a campfire in cool weather. If hot, light a candle in the ring. But most people, including me, seam to have a issue putting the fire out when they go to bed. If it is getting colder, hard not feed the fire. I solve the problem by laying the fire, fill a paper sack with kindling, and take the sack inside for the night. Early morning, put sack in fire, light it and go back inside to watch thru window while make coffee. Enjoy nice fire, have a bed of coals to fix breakfast, let it go out as the day warms.

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am1958 wrote:

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It is pretty apparent you are one of those people who feel that paying a site fee allows you to do whatever you want, damaging property included, and let the costs incurred be borne by the park owner and future guests.


Absolutely not. I pick up the trash left by others and leave none of my own. My fires are well made and tended. When I leave a site I leave it better than I found it. Most campers do do such things. You, on the other hand, are clearly of the opinion that you need to dumb everything down for everyone. Possibly because it makes your life easier not to have to go and visit sites when people have left and see what they have done. If they have damaged stuff charge them for it. It's not rocket science but it does take some additional work...
Just curious if most campers pick up after themselves, why do you find it necessary to pick up after the camper that was at your site previously? Perhaps they're fire making skills are also not at the same level as yours.


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Posted: 10/18/19 08:05am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Let's see now... Boycotter count 3 - maybe 4?

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Posted: 10/18/19 08:25am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Crowe - unfortunately, if the people on this forum are representative of RVers in general, "if you don't like the rules, go elsewhere" isn't a choice. Instead they must demand that anyone who does things differently is bad and must be destroyed. Doesn't matter how much easier it would be to just find a park that meets your wants and needs and stay away from those that don't. Heaven forbid, another RVer purposely choose that other park - we must save them from themselves.


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