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senecal.tony

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Posted: 10/08/19 09:46am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

First, let me introduce myself; I am a 69 year old man that has been driving since I was 16 years old and have never received any driving citation or ticket except in Louisiana, specifically the Lasalle Parish. For the past 15 + years we have owned and driven motor homes. Currently, my wife and I are retired and travel extensively. We do most of our travel in a 34 foot motor home pulling a jeep (4 wheels down). Something to keep in mind while reading our story; I follow the traffic laws and do not go beyond speed limits. When you are an experienced driver of an RV and know that length and weight of specifically a motor home while pulling a vehicle have an impact on stopping distance; most of the motor home community knows to go below the posted speed limit.

On September 21, 2019 we were traveling through Lasalle Parish, US 165, back to our home in DeRidder Louisiana. Approaching the city of Tullos, we noticed several speed limit changes (65 mph, 55 mph to 45 mph) and we adhered to each by reducing our speed to below the posted limit each time. It should be noted that the notice of the speed limit reduction and the posted speed limit was short in distance in each instance.

As we approached a so called “construction zone” in the city limits of Tullos I noticed several cones and the sign alerting me to reduce speed ahead from 55 mph to 45 mph and immediately began slowing down. Motor Home drivers know that when you hit the brake and have the “Jake Break” on, the vehicle immediately starts to slow by virtue of the engine compression and this was done by me as soon as I seen the notice to reduce speed. One other important item; Two other vehicles went directly in front of me entering into the reduced speed area going much faster than we were.

The police officer writing the citation for 55 mph in a 45 mph zone stated on the ticket that the speed was determined by radar. I was not going 55 mph. The only explanation I could have is the radar is inaccurate or the the radar was shot or initiated just into the notice to reduce speed. Also, why were the two vehicles in front of me ignored?

The purpose of the letter is to warn fellow drivers that the city of Tullos and or Parish of Lasalle in Louisiana has a significant campaign going on to fund city budgets via traffic tickets (commonly know as speed traps).There are many reasons for my getting to this conclusion:

Motor Home drivers are some of the safest drivers on the road (we understand our restrictions to maintain safety).
Who gives a ticket for 55 mph and a 45 mph zone? Is there any room for an equipment malfunction by needing to be recalibrated?
Why were two other vehicles allowed to go through the area faster than myself? I can’t be sure but maybe they were locals and not an out of town tag.
Our home location is 112 miles from the city of Tullos. We could fight this in court with the proverbial “he said she said argument”; may or may not work with the judge. But, why would we travel back for court with an uncertain ending? Could this be part of isolating out of town people for citations know they would more than likely just pay.
I made call to the Tullos mayor’s office on September 24, 2019 to discuss my dissatisfaction with the citation and how the facts and process materialized. The mayor was unavailable but I did speak to a representative in the office. After explaining my displeasure with the citation and requesting the mayor call me back, I was told that the mayor would not call back and that any further objections to the ticket would only be addressed in court. In addition, I have attempted to locate a website or email for the Tullos LA Mayor’s office but could not find anything. That brings me back to the “out of town people receiving citations argument”.
The charge for this citation is $230 (really). They do offer the opportunity to pay the ticket online for an extra $11 and change. There is also an added charge for paying over the phone.

My plan moving forward is to share this experience with the many RV clubs and travel organizations we are members of. I hope that my fellow travelers take notice of the unreasonable citation issuing practices and stay clear of Lasalle parish. Below is what I’ll be sharing so there is no confusion.

Fellow travelers: Stay away from this, in my humble opinion, deceitfully run city of Tullos and or Lasalle parish. The local officials obviously can’t think through ligament and reasonable ways to fund and run the city effectively and turn to trickery or worst by trickery and penalizing law abiding out of town people.

Last but certainly not least; I have paid the $241.50 to the city of Tullos, against my better judgement.

Debton

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Posted: 10/08/19 09:58am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sorry that happened, must have soured your trip. Probably also soured any desire to go through there again and spend money.
Things like this are one of the reasons I've installed a dash cam on my truck.


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Posted: 10/08/19 10:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ScottG wrote:

Sorry that happened, must have soured your trip. Probably also soured any desire to go through there again and spend money.
Things like this are one of the reasons I've installed a dash cam on my truck.

Unless that dash cam also has your speedometer in view, it would likely do you no good.. Unless it picked up where the LEO was sitting in relation to the signage. Then, maybe.


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Posted: 10/08/19 10:22am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Did you post this info on Speed Trap?
It may reach more people.

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Posted: 10/08/19 10:29am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ticketing out of towners is not unheard of. Easy money for the town, and lets the locals know the laws are being enforced.

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schlep1967 wrote:

ScottG wrote:

Sorry that happened, must have soured your trip. Probably also soured any desire to go through there again and spend money.
Things like this are one of the reasons I've installed a dash cam on my truck.

Unless that dash cam also has your speedometer in view, it would likely do you no good.. Unless it picked up where the LEO was sitting in relation to the signage. Then, maybe.


Mine, like many, has a GPS unit and keeps track of time, location and speed.

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Posted: 10/08/19 10:38am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You will not win a "he said, she said" argument against a radar gun citation. There have been countless tickets written using radar readings as evidence and it is accepted in court after court as fact of speed being traveled. Police radars are frequently calibrated and certified as accurate. I think it is safe to say that you were traveling 55 when the radar recorded your speed. Were you were in or out of the actual speed zone is a different question, yet it is another argument you would almost assuredly lose without some pretty rare video documentation. Seeing that it was a construction zone, your $240.00 fine and court costs is an extreme bargain. In many states those fines are $500 to $1000 at a minimum.

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Posted: 10/08/19 10:47am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Well, if I remember right from Drivers Education, some 49 years ago, the vehicle is suppose to be going the posted speed limit when they they are at the sign, not after it, slowing down then. And should not speed back up again until after completely passing the increase-in-speed sign. If you were going faster than the posted speedlimit at the actual sign, then yes... you were speeding. You cannot justify the actions of anyone else but yourself, I can't justify any's actions but my own too. You were the one the officer choose. Grin and bear it.

I find it interesting that when law enforcement actually ENFORCE the law, people get mad. Funny how that works.

And yes, I've had a couple speeding tickets myself, caught by camera in Iowa City, Iowa many years ago. I slow down before the sign. Yea, it pi$$es drivers off behind me, but I really don't care. 2 tickets in my lifetime is 2 tickets too many.

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Posted: 10/08/19 11:00am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Life's little lessons cost..........

If that is your first speeding ticket you have been very lucky.
YOU might have just been one of those 'other' vehicles that were ignored while the Popo was culling another one from the herd.

Most fines in 'construction zones' double/triple.


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Posted: 10/08/19 11:42am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Most tickets I have received were deserved. 2 I should have gotten but I was cut some slack. One I got I didn’t deserve. The only way it could have happened was a crooked trooper. It does happen more so than we would like to see.

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