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SideHillSoup

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Posted: 09/05/19 03:31pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Just read this on the CBC new website.
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Link to Alaska ferry news

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I suggest, with Canadian permission, we protect our own federal employees.


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Posted: 09/05/19 07:14pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I just saw that too. It is going to disrupt a lot of travel plans.

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They probably got tired of not being able to "carry" firearms on Canadian soil, for their CBP guys to do pre-authorized clearance and inspections. I thought I read somewhere that the Canadian government wouldn't let them carry sidearms while on Canadian soil, so they had to hire/pay the RCMP to "cover them" while on duty. Can you imagine the CBP guys saying WTF? "you won't let us do our job, so we'll shut it down" was probably their ultimate answer.
It's our own fault for not having the "right to keep and bear".

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c........service-to-pay-canadian-police-1.5142709


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MDK ...but...but...in Canada you can carry a restricted firearm if risk to your security at your employment warrants it. Bank guards, secret agent, private eye, armoured car personnel, sheriffs, etc.

Every community in Canada with RCMP local policing pays for it.

It sounds like convenient excuses for a couple guvvermints to finger point and cancel a service until the other one pays etc etc.

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Posted: 09/06/19 07:51am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

noteven wrote:

MDK ...but...but...in Canada you can carry a restricted firearm if risk to your security at your employment warrants it. Bank guards, secret agent, private eye, armoured car personnel, sheriffs, etc.

Every community in Canada with RCMP local policing pays for it.

It sounds like convenient excuses for a couple guvvermints to finger point and cancel a service until the other one pays etc etc.


A Canadian might be able to carry during the performance of his/her/it's duties, if they get a permission note from God. This was about Americans not being able to carry, for God knows why stupid reasons.
I believe I already stated your conclusion. They took their ferry and went home.

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Geeezus...stop pouting because Canadian laws apply in Canada.


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garyhaupt wrote:

Geeezus...stop pouting because Canadian laws apply in Canada.


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Canadian laws are a pita and usually legislative overkill. Decades of bureaucrats writing them, without sensible oversight, has created a labyrinth of redundancy and confusion. Just sayin'.
They actually state in the Canada Firearms Act that foreign "guests" are allowed to carry/transport/store/etc. while in our country, in many cases.
Which begs the question, why not CBP agents in Prince Rupert? Local bylaw? BC provincial law? Nothing to do with firearms in Canada would surprise me now since the Trudeau/Goodale/Blair trio got their mitts on it.
Just makes the topic all the more confusing.
Doesn't affect me directly, so I'm done.
Good luck with it BC, you'll need it.

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MDKMDK wrote:

garyhaupt wrote:

Geeezus...stop pouting because Canadian laws apply in Canada.


Gary Haupt


Canadian laws are a pita and usually legislative overkill. Decades of bureaucrats writing them, without sensible oversight, has created a labyrinth of redundancy and confusion. Just sayin'.
They actually state in the Canada Firearms Act that foreign "guests" are allowed to carry/transport/store/etc. while in our country, in many cases.
Which begs the question, why not CBP agents in Prince Rupert? Local bylaw? BC provincial law? Nothing to do with firearms in Canada would surprise me now since the Trudeau/Goodale/Blair trio got their mitts on it.
Just makes the topic all the more confusing.


Now..having re-read the article, it is clear that this a way for the State of Alaska to dump the run as a cost cutting measure. Plus, the dock facility needs to be upgraded, no doubt NOT on Alaska's nickel.

As for CBS..they are in Prince Rupert, but I am guessing that providing an armed escort service for the the ferry crew does not fall under their duties.

I have to wonder..how was this managed in the past? Was there an armed US Border service person on-board?


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Posted: 09/06/19 09:48am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Interesting spin in / on the article.

AMHS (Alaska Marine Highway System, the ferry) is one of the higher profile areas for budget cuts; whether the Prince Rupert elimination was "generic" or due to the potential specific cost of funding either US or Canadian border agents, the cut was undoubtedly based on budget.

Lots of other thoughts at least somewhat relevant to this issue but will try to stay within the guidelines and avoid "politics"


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