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Gdetrailer wrote:As you are most likely aware of, building a trailer from scratch in PA and getting it titled is a real buzz kill pain in the behind..
If I can buy a titled TT, PennDOT doesn't need to know how much work I've done to it! ![[emoticon]](https://forums.motorhome.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/wink.gif "wink")
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So I thought I'd share some computer renderings for the design I have worked up. Over the past couple of years my wife and I have thoroughly discussed how we want to use our TT in the future. We plan to do a lot of traveling to see all of the natural wonders in the continental US and possibly Canada and Mexico.
I want something that has a max length under 26' (bumper to hitch) so that we can camp at pretty much any national park without issue. I also want to keep it under 26' to reduce fuel consumption when towing. I also want it to feel as open as possible...which is tough with a small box length and no slides, so compromises have to be made. For us that meant not having the sleeping area separated from the (public) seating area.
To make my wife happy, she wants a decent size bathroom and electric fireplace. In order to have the room to accomodate her wishes (and satisfy my love of vintage trailer design) I have gone with a cab-over type of design (like a vintage Shasta Astrodome TT). This actually allowed me to design a king size upper bunk and a U-shaped dinette that converts to a full size queen. I think it can very comfortably sleep four adults and two small kids.
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Floor_Plan.png)
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Floorplan_2.png)
The small "L" off of the upper bunk measures 66"x32", so it it would work for younger (grand) children.
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Floorplan_3.png)
Lots of storage in the bathroom! The area under the storage is where the water heater will be and also exterior accessed storage.
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render-Temp0001.png)
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render-Temp0002.png)
Kitchen counter measures 96"!
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render-Temp0005.png)
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render-Temp0003.png)
Two large wardrobes or one could be used as a pantry. 10 cu.ft. 12v refridgerator. Above the fridge is the breaker/load center.
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render-Temp0006.png)
Electric fireplace for the wife! The top lifts and has storage for the dinette table and the pedestal legs.
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render-Temp0007.png)
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render-Temp0015.png)
Configured for seating with the table and legs stored away.
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render-Temp0012.png)
Configured for dining with the ladder to access the upper king bunk. There is 25" from the top of the mattress to the ceiling, so it should feel pretty open.
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render-Temp0010.png)
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render-Temp0011.png)
Dinette converted to a full size queen bunk (60"x80")
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render-Temp0009.png)
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render-Temp0008.png)
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render-Temp0013.png)
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render-Temp0014.png)
Exterior view
![[image]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/tt194/jfbrubaker1969/Trailer_v6.3.1_22ft_Render_-Exterior0001.png)
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Gdetrailer
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jfb1969 wrote:Gdetrailer wrote:As you are most likely aware of, building a trailer from scratch in PA and getting it titled is a real buzz kill pain in the behind..
If I can buy a titled TT, PennDOT doesn't need to know how much work I've done to it!
That was my thoughts ![[emoticon]](https://forums.motorhome.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
Sort of why when a rotted 26ft trailer showed up for sale along the roads I was driving caught my eye..
Otherwise the plan was to have a trailer fab shop build the bare frame with minimal required safety items like lights and fenders to my specs and they would also do the leg work to get a PA title issued.. Once the title was issued, not much PADOT could do if I built a permanent "load" on it ![[emoticon]](https://forums.motorhome.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/awink.gif "awink")
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poppa
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Gdetrailer wrote:The repairs and workmanship looks great, however, I can't help to think about all of the time, energy and money you will have wasted when down the road you decide to rip it down to frame and start from scratch again??
I have done one partial gut/rebuild and one total gut and rebuild inside and out just reusing floor and walls and new roof structure..
The second one cost me 10yrs ago $3,500 in materials and took me 9 months to complete.. No way would I consider blowing down to frame and building new from scratch now days at the current cost of materials. What I did was I kept the smaller one that I bought first and used it until the newer larger one was finished.. Then sold off the smaller one..
time, energy and money? this troll dont care. he is still posting pics of "how its gonna be" 7 years after first post. it has been entertaining and a learning experience though. lol
If you were planning to start from frame up, it would have been better to have done that before you spent time and energy rebuilding it..
I would have bought another old cheap one to temporarily use instead of doing it the way you did as now you will end up scrapping a lot of materials and all of your labor.. Shame too, it looks great.
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Gdetrailer
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poppa wrote:
time, energy and money? this troll dont care. he is still posting pics of "how its gonna be" 7 years after first post. it has been entertaining and a learning experience though. lol
If you were planning to start from frame up, it would have been better to have done that before you spent time and energy rebuilding it..
Talk about troll?
Don't be such a jerk.
OP did go back and realized and mentioned they they misspoke about reusing the existing trailer for the new project. Easy enough to type one thing and mean something else..
Yes, 7 yrs ago was a long time, sometimes "life" gets in the way of plans which derails your life.. Cut the OP some slack.
Also, as a hint, if you plan to insert YOUR thoughts inside someones text that you quoted, use the color function to set your text a different color.. As it was, it made my text look like I was being a jerk..
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jfb1969
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poppa wrote:time, energy and money? this troll dont care. he is still posting pics of "how its gonna be" 7 years after first post. it has been entertaining and a learning experience though. lol
Seems that you're the only troll here. As Gdetrailer said, sometimes life gets in the way and plans have to change. You know, little things...like finding out your spouse has breast cancer and having to deal with that.
Abraham Lincoln once said, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."
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