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2oldman

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But snippet "talpipe emissions" and bury heads in sand to justify the continued digging in pockets to support them. Just don't look behind the curtain so you can keep feeling good about it.
Well, maybe this is why nobody's wanted to answer you.

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Reisender I drive quite slowly. I found a "sweet spot" at 49 mph. If I drive that speed I get an honest 12.5 MPG. If I drive 50 mph I get 10 mpg.

I don't believe in long drives without taking a break every 2 hours.

If I stop for lunch I would, if needed, opportunity charge.

My understanding is that BEV vehicles which can manage 500 miles are currently available.


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Reisender I drive quite slowly. I found a "sweet spot" at 49 mph. If I drive that speed I get an honest 12.5 MPG. If I drive 50 mph I get 10 mpg.

I don't believe in long drives without taking a break every 2 hours.

If I stop for lunch I would, if needed, opportunity charge.

My understanding is that BEV vehicles which can manage 500 miles are currently available.


Yah could be. We are typically good for 2 to 3 hours before we need a pee brake. We usually charge on any pee break. We are usually back on the road in 15 to 20 minutes. We typically don’t travel more than a 1000 kilometres a day any more.

* This post was edited 03/06/23 05:52pm by Reisender *

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Reisender wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

pianotuna wrote:

Do any of us take a highway trip without filling up first?

My day use of an RV would be supported by level 1 charging.

My preferred charge level around town would be 50% and I'd recharge when I reached 40%. I would certainly not exceed 85%.

If, on the other hand I were going 205 miles, I'd fully charge, and do a lunch stop at 100 miles.
i cannot fathom a stop at only 100 miles we often go 7-800 miles a day.


I’m not sure how to read this. Are you under the impression that EV’s charge every 100 miles?


running a BB 454 towing i got around 150 to a max 175 miles per before i was looking to fill up my 35 gal tank. 250-300 pulling the same trailer with a 6.5td and 35 gal tank.

doesnt matter what my propulsion is, it doesnt matter what the actual fuel is for many of us, its how big of a tank do i have! gas has fewer BTU's than diesel, so with the same sized tank, same lbs, frontal area, im going fewer miles per tank same will hapen with DC power. if i dont have enough AHR in mt tank, ie battery pack, i wont go as far as one with more AHR's.
at the end of the day, choose your poison! At least at the moment, u have some choice in what fuel I use. Hoping it will stay that way!

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2oldman wrote:

way2roll wrote:

But snippet "talpipe emissions" and bury heads in sand to justify the continued digging in pockets to support them. Just don't look behind the curtain so you can keep feeling good about it.
Well, maybe this is why nobody's wanted to answer you.


Nope, it's because no one can answer the question. EV's aren't solving anything. They're just creating new and different problems along with exacerbating some old ones.


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way2roll. Spoken very well. You are on the money. Cheers

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Nope, it's because no one can answer the question. EV's aren't solving anything. They're just creating new and different problems along with exacerbating some old ones.


Because it's *not* a question, it's your opinion. Others have given theirs. You disagree. Nothing more.

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2oldman wrote:

way2roll wrote:

Not a single person has yet to explain to me what problems EV's are actually solving.
Automobile and truck tailpipe emissions of co2.


Yeah it's always "tailpipe emissions". That was the original earth saving mantra. Unfortunately that's only a small percentage of the actual impact. You think the machines that mine raw materials have decent tailpipe emissions? How about the ships that transport it, or the trucks that delver them? How about the caustic and hazardous waste, ecological impact from mining, continued dependency on foreign nations and the lack of their eco and humanitarian friendly operations? Nevermind the continued emissions and impact from producing electricity to run EV's. Ev's aren't saving the planet and reciting "tailpipe emissions" means you haven't bothered to do any real research on the topic. You have to look deeper. You'd think people really interested in saving the planet would do the homework to ensure that their fancy purchase is having the actual benefit they have been lead to believe.

But snippet "talpipe emissions" and bury heads in sand to justify the continued digging in pockets to support them. Just don't look behind the curtain so you can keep feeling good about it.

Of course the ever popular responses when presented with these facts are "we never really cared about it being green, they're just cool".


Years back, a company I hauled for had a portable rock crusher powered by a Cat 3406E driving a generator. Same time, I was running a 3406E in Pete, hauling the rock. If I ran a 10 hour day, I expected to pump 100 gallons of fuel in it. But the fuel tank on that generator was only 60 gallons. If they wanted to run over 10 hours better put more fuel in. Somehow I don't think the 2 engines put out the same pollution.
You want to include all the pollution of production and transportation of materials and vehicles in the total for EVs. Asa example, is it cleaner to mine the coal, make the coke, if the steel goes into the body of ICE powered car?

I don't know how much overlap there is between the group NEED A NEW CAR EVERY 3 YEARS, and the NEVER HAVE EV crowd. But if there is any overlap, the All new will be EV mandate will save a lot of pollution just because people will want to drive the ICE they have for a lot longer.

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Nope, it's because no one can answer the question. EV's aren't solving anything. They're just creating new and different problems along with exacerbating some old ones.


Because it's *not* a question, it's your opinion. Others have given theirs. You disagree. Nothing more.


Even if that were true, my opinion doesn't require digging into your pockets to support it.

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propchef wrote:

way2roll wrote:



Nope, it's because no one can answer the question. EV's aren't solving anything. They're just creating new and different problems along with exacerbating some old ones.


Because it's *not* a question, it's your opinion. Others have given theirs. You disagree. Nothing more.


Even if that were true, my opinion doesn't require digging into your pockets to support it.


But money out of that same pocket has been supporting your side of the discussion all your life.

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