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pianotuna wrote:How many of use carry a spare gas (or diesel) can full of fuel as we travel on well travelled highways?
I do agree that for off road EV may not be a wise choice.
If by “off road” you mean rural vs urban, maybe.
It’s funny how the closed minds refuse to acknowledge that if one booked a new EV truck/suv to any sort of substantial trailer, there are many paved roads in both of our countries where it wouldn’t make it to the next charging station or at a bare minimum you’d be chasing charging stations and praying you made it there.
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Grit dog wrote:pianotuna wrote:How many of use carry a spare gas (or diesel) can full of fuel as we travel on well travelled highways?
I do agree that for off road EV may not be a wise choice.
If by “off road” you mean rural vs urban, maybe.
It’s funny how the closed minds refuse to acknowledge that if one booked a new EV truck/suv to any sort of substantial trailer, there are many paved roads in both of our countries where it wouldn’t make it to the next charging station or at a bare minimum you’d be chasing charging stations and praying you made it there.
Well, you wouldn’t be “praying you would make it there”. You would know before you left wherever you are exactly what charge you would arrive with at your destination. If it says you can’t make it and you leave anyway then you are going to the wrong destination or have the wrong vehicle to get there. It’s not that hard. Right tool for the right job.
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Grit dog wrote:If by “off road” you mean rural vs urban, maybe.
It’s funny how the closed minds refuse to acknowledge that if one booked a new EV truck/suv to any sort of substantial trailer, there are many paved roads in both of our countries where it wouldn’t make it to the next charging station or at a bare minimum you’d be chasing charging stations and praying you made it there. There might be a few dark alleys and yet they are getting harder to find each year.
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The amount of EV haters and EV illiterates on this site amazes me. What I don't understand is if you have an RV and you boondock, you have an EV. You have to determine how much battery power you have, how long you can go on that battery, and what to do when the battery gets low. You have all the same issues as any EV vehicle has, range anxiety, charging concerns, etc. How do you go through your day with all those concerns. I know, you use a generator that burns gas. Without one you can't boondock!! hmmm... Only lots of people on here find ways to use things like solar and other power sources.
How is driving an EV any different? Hopefully everyone understands our government is doing every thing it can to change how many charging stations are available and where. Not that you will find one off grid, but you might have one within a few miles of that dirt road. If you have a 200 mile range and you are leaving pavement, you probably won't run out of electricity unless you just aren't paying attention, but as someone said, then you would probably run out of gas as you don't pay attention to that gauge also. I know, you lose lots of range when you hook up to a trailer. There are only 2 EV trucks on the market today, there are 2 more coming, what's coming after that. What will you think when range with a trailer is 600 miles and you have more torque than any diesel truck out there... you might change your mind?
Also, EV really does not mean Electric Vehicle, it means any vehicle that doesn't burn fossil fuels as its main source of power. That opens a lot of doors in the next 10 years.
I don't have one. If I had an extra 100K I would be looking at the new Sierra with 400 mile range. It wouldn't tow my RV, but that will change in the near future.
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this whole discussion reminds me of the advent of catalytic converters and how unleaded fuel couldn't possible be availalbe everywhere on time when the first vehicles with Cat converters arrived.
Ad the time we lived in rural ND, then rural MT. Even in small towns and on trips to the outbacks, by the time the vehicles were introduced it was VERY VERY VERPY rare to find a station that didn't have unleaded fuel.
The transistion to EV is not an overnight thing like CAT converters were, personally for us for a second car and EV makes perfect sense, as does a plug in hybrid while a straight ICE engine for our cars makes zero sense for us. Our mile hybrid gets in town mileage = or better than the highway mileage while the straight ICE engine gets 18 city, 25 highway, or mild hybrid version consistenly gets 25-27 in town, 28-30 on the highway. The additional cost was a whopping LARGE $1500!!! payback is only a few years.
I would love to see the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks with a mild hybrid system to recover energy during stop and go driving,
At some point in the future, finding a petrol station will be about has hard as finding a station that sold diesel in the 70's and MB actually included a booklet of diesel fuel locations.
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Reisender wrote:Grit dog wrote:pianotuna wrote:How many of use carry a spare gas (or diesel) can full of fuel as we travel on well travelled highways?
I do agree that for off road EV may not be a wise choice.
If by “off road” you mean rural vs urban, maybe.
It’s funny how the closed minds refuse to acknowledge that if one booked a new EV truck/suv to any sort of substantial trailer, there are many paved roads in both of our countries where it wouldn’t make it to the next charging station or at a bare minimum you’d be chasing charging stations and praying you made it there.
Well, you wouldn’t be “praying you would make it there”. You would know before you left wherever you are exactly what charge you would arrive with at your destination. If it says you can’t make it and you leave anyway then you are going to the wrong destination or have the wrong vehicle to get there. It’s not that hard. Right tool for the right job.
No, you’re exactly right. And in the populous areas of the country, bingo bango,you can fill up them depleted Duracells somehow every hundred miles when they go dead.
For those of us who travel in less populated areas I guess just keep that spare gas powered truck around for the big trips….
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How would I know exactly what charge I’d have? Is it like a DTE on normal vehicles?
Or is there some magic that happens in EVs that predict grades, winds, how much my mileage will drop based on knowing what I’m loading into it or towing?
What if I’m headin to Havre but decide to go to Chester because the fishin is better?
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d1h wrote:Was told by a car salesperson that don't be fooled into thinking ICE Vehicles will not be manufactured anymore or sold after 2035. He said they will still be manufactured along with electric ones and you will have a choice which you want to purchase. Don't know if he was just feeding me a line or was giving me factual information.
I think By 2030 there will be more EVs made then ICE.
Ford to triple ev production in 2023.
Bigest problem is stealers adding on huge mark up in price
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Thats where Tesla has big advantage as one can buy factory direct.
Also their advanced tech manufacturing guarantees it will always be very profitable unlike some ev makers.
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Since we talk trucks. Cybrtrk w over milion reservations will be seling like proverbial hot cakes for many years and no doubt will outperform every other truck,just like Tesla cars do.
Why would anyone buy gas or diesel with its asociated cost maintanance is beyond me.
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^City slicker….
BTW, what electric truck do you drive?
Or all hat, no cattle here?
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pianotuna wrote:How many of use carry a spare gas (or diesel) can full of fuel as we travel on well travelled highways?
I do agree that for off road EV may not be a wise choice. i usually am far away from civilization i need to carry extra fuel
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Thermoguy wrote:The amount of EV haters and EV illiterates on this site amazes me. What I don't understand is if you have an RV and you boondock, you have an EV. You have to determine how much battery power you have, how long you can go on that battery, and what to do when the battery gets low. You have all the same issues as any EV vehicle has, range anxiety, charging concerns, etc. How do you go through your day with all those concerns. I know, you use a generator that burns gas. Without one you can't boondock!! hmmm... Only lots of people on here find ways to use things like solar and other power sources.
How is driving an EV any different? Hopefully everyone understands our government is doing every thing it can to change how many charging stations are available and where. Not that you will find one off grid, but you might have one within a few miles of that dirt road. If you have a 200 mile range and you are leaving pavement, you probably won't run out of electricity unless you just aren't paying attention, but as someone said, then you would probably run out of gas as you don't pay attention to that gauge also. I know, you lose lots of range when you hook up to a trailer. There are only 2 EV trucks on the market today, there are 2 more coming, what's coming after that. What will you think when range with a trailer is 600 miles and you have more torque than any diesel truck out there... you might change your mind?
Also, EV really does not mean Electric Vehicle, it means any vehicle that doesn't burn fossil fuels as its main source of power. That opens a lot of doors in the next 10 years.
I don't have one. If I had an extra 100K I would be looking at the new Sierra with 400 mile range. It wouldn't tow my RV, but that will change in the near future. take the basic math you learned in high school and do the math on just what it would take to recharge with a rv solar system or generator. then get back to me.
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