oliver 550
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We are looking to potentially buy a Host Tahoe SB. This TC is specifically for a Short Bed so I was wondering which 3500/350 non dually will fit the bill. Host says it would weigh a little over 4k with the options plus our own "stuff". I would like to add a I know many of the 3500/350 have 11500 GVWR but I am not sure what the real weights of these trucks are. I would think it will have to be a gasser to have the weight capacity although I really would like it to be a diesel if there is one that will work. Does anyone know which truck may have the available weight capacity for this?
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Grit dog
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There’s actually no question. Any newer short bed 1ton srw, 2 or 4wd, gas or diesel will haul it about the same. It’s 99% personal preference and 1% what truck you get.
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Most of the wt will go on the rear axle, so not a big difference whether gas/diesel. Your front axle/tires should be okay. You want a 35 series truck with a higher rear axle/tire rating, with the tires likely the deciding factor.
Tires with 3,750 rating will be a good starting point, and may be about as good as it gets OEM. If the trucks rear axle empty is 3,250, then you could add another 4K. Higher rated tires are available.
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It will probably end up weighing 5000#+ with your stuff, a couple people in the truck, and a full tank of fuel. Definitely puts you out of single rear wheel territory. My camper with options is 3300#, and comes in at 4700# loaded ready to go camping. It pretty much maxes out my longbed dually, truck and camper weighed at a CAT scale is 13,700# Maybe look at a Ram Megacab, they are shortbed and I think you can get them as a dually.
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There isn't a reason to have a diesel unless you plan to tow something heavy some of the time or need the extra range. Gasoline engines haul TCs just fine.
However, I think you should consider a DRW. For short bed, I think that means Ram. I don't think anyone else still makes a short bed. You could put something in front of the bed on a long bed. Some people do that. Personally, I think it looks strange.
I have a double slide 9 1/2 Host. I hauled it on a 11,400 SRW for 8 1/2 years. I did upgrade to 19.5 G tires to give more tire capacity. My DRW hauls it better as expected. I got by with the SRW because I had to. I just carried less water, kept the grey/black tanks empty, and only carried the minimum. Besides the weight capacity, the DRW will have noticeably better brakes.
Even with the DRW, I've pushed my 14500 GVWR fully loaded. On trip, I towed my wife's Uncle/Aunts TT behind on a trip to Yellowstone from the Seattle Area and back. It had no issues even over the Cascades with the diesel.
In any case, you can do it with a SRW, but you have to accept some tradeoffs.
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And you’ll be about 1000lbs each over gvwr, rated camper payload and factory axle rating and over OE tire/wheel rating.
And under the real axle rating.
I’d haul it but that’s all the camper a srw truck wants to have on it.
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jimh406 wrote:Besides the weight capacity, the DRW will have noticeably better brakes.
Umm... well... err... No.
To dispel the myth that DRW's are "safer" then SRW a quick search of auto parts stores list the same PN# for rotors&pads for SRW AND DRW trucks.
Must be a Auto parts store mess up right? Nope.
Here's Dodge/Ram (as an example)Dodge/Ram 3500 OEM break parts page
While last I looked Ford was the same way, IDK about GM. (likely the same as well)
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You will regret not gettimg a dually on the first trip. You'll be heavier than you think.
There's no way I'd get a diesel for hauling a TC unless it will also be used to tow something heavy.
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jimh406
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mbloof wrote:Umm... well... err... No.
To dispel the myth that DRW's are "safer" then SRW a quick search of auto parts stores list the same PN# for rotors&pads for SRW AND DRW trucks.
It's no myth. You are just wrong, but I'll leave it to you to find the many threads that go into the details.
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You either need the Ram 3500 Megacab DRW or run a SRW with suspension and Wheel upgrades. If you go this route, expect to swap out the spring pack. Add a rear stabilizer bar and go to 245/70r19.5 PR16 LRH tires. You may also need heavier damped shocks to handle those heavy commercial tires.
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