Ram Reduces Max Tow Ratings

[FishOnOne]

Looks like Ram cut it's max tow ratings and hoped no one noticed.


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[JRscooby]

blt2ski wrote:
Scooby,
Some stars have chosen to not update to most recent FBL regs. Louisiana is another. On member used to pull thru multiple states to west going east at 120k lbs. Hit Louisiana, promptly get a $360 overweight ticket. Pull out company CC, then had a ility to drive the 15-20 miles to dock. Return to Az or NM for another load next week. The ticket was cheaper than separating the dual trailers with two tractors.
Many more readers on here are realizing, that being over the manufactures ratings are not a death sentence. Weight ratings? are based on engineers design rating for the roads, not the manufactures warranty ratings.


Marty

Ratings? I think here you mean legal limits. And I don't think all legal limits are based on "design rating" for the roads. There is many places where a imaginary line changes the weight limit, and not always state lines. Once I was stopped, after weighing my truck, LEO told me "Scooby Doo, you know better than this. If you had come out (Named 4 roads that date back at least to the '40s, that I normally used) you would be so close would not get a ticket. But because you used I70 you are 29,900 lbs overweight.
Another US highway in the state allows 5500 lbs more gross weight, if hauling hogs, compared to anything else.

But if a weight watcher stops you, the 1 rating they will look at is on the sidewall of tire. The issue, IMHO, of the manufactures reducing ratings after the truck is sold ends when warranty runs out. Manufacturer can call loading above ratings abuse, and deny coverage if repair is needed

[blt2ski]

Scooby,
Some stars have chosen to not update to most recent FBL regs. Louisiana is another. On member used to pull thru multiple states to west going east at 120k lbs. Hit Louisiana, promptly get a $360 overweight ticket. Pull out company CC, then had a ility to drive the 15-20 miles to dock. Return to Az or NM for another load next week. The ticket was cheaper than separating the dual trailers with two tractors.
Many more readers on here are realizing, that being over the manufactures ratings are not a death sentence. Weight ratings are based on engineers design rating for the roads, not the manufactures warranty ratings.


Marty

[JRscooby]

Grit dog wrote:


The last part of your statement always makes me chuckle. This forum is Chuck full of Chuckleheads always adding or buying some gadget or device under the auspices of safety or driving experience. And those same folks have surely passed a bunch of RV haulers, just like the rest of us have. And the one thing I’ve NEVER seen on a bp trailer haulers hitch is a wdh. Never.

If it was a law or necessary I’d think that the guys who tow all sorts of trailers day in day out would certainly have them.

Few years back, I was waiting for wife, and couple hot-shot drivers where waiting to unload. We where sharing shade-tree, so I could hear them witching. Apparently 1 of their regular customers was wanting longer load decks (45ft IIRC), and the first trip thru Iowa the driver had been ticketed for over length.* I had to laugh, because I battled with Iowa over length back in late '70s. I guess Iowa has/had a exemption to their law that allowed tractor/semi trailer combinations that does not apply to truck combinations.
*Shortly after the conversation I posted about it, wondering if RVers had any issue in that state, but I guess the idea was too political for the gods.

[JRscooby]

Flashman wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
^^^ I think the BC law pertaining to pickup trucks pulling rvs is: If a police officer sees that a pickup is obviously overloaded he can have the overloaded truck weighed and ticketed based on the GVWR of the truck. But, I’d be very surprised if a BC cop would ever ticket a new 2500 series diesel pickup, leveled with air bags, towing an 18000 lb fiver.

Pretty vague. If the BC cop can just "see" it's overloaded and decide to have you weighed. What if the cop was a Ford hater and missed his morning donut?

My question is LEO thinks vehicle is fat, stops and weighs it, and all is good, what happens?

In Mo, if the weight watcher sees a rig that is likely over the weight licensed he can stop and weigh it. I was in court one day, (For my overload) watched several guys forced to pay because of heavy boat/pickup rigs. But the only rating LEO will worry about is tires and if CDL is needed.

[Grit_dog]

Me Again wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
This could be an issue for some who feel it necessary to stay within the manufacturers maximum tow ratings. For others of us it really doesn’t make an iota bit of difference what the manufacturer’s tow rating is…. If we feel comfortable towing 5,000 lbs over the tow limit we’re probably going to tow 5,000 lbs over the manufacturer’s tow limit …. putting a different sticker on the door pillar isn’t going to change the way the truck behaves.

Except for BC, which somehow enforces weight limits that other areas do not concern themselves with. In my home state of Washington one can purchase tonnage that exceeds that stickers in the door jam. No one with a pickup is going to exceed the Federal Bridge Weight laws that are enforced at weigh stations. Hot shot haulers tend to laugh at the internet weight police.

The last part of your statement always makes me chuckle. This forum is Chuck full of Chuckleheads always adding or buying some gadget or device under the auspices of safety or driving experience. And those same folks have surely passed a bunch of RV haulers, just like the rest of us have. And the one thing I’ve NEVER seen on a bp trailer haulers hitch is a wdh. Never.

If it was a law or necessary I’d think that the guys who tow all sorts of trailers day in day out would certainly have them.

[Grit_dog]

Flashman wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
^^^ I think the BC law pertaining to pickup trucks pulling rvs is: If a police officer sees that a pickup is obviously overloaded he can have the overloaded truck weighed and ticketed based on the GVWR of the truck. But, I’d be very surprised if a BC cop would ever ticket a new 2500 series diesel pickup, leveled with air bags, towing an 18000 lb fiver.

Pretty vague. If the BC cop can just "see" it's overloaded and decide to have you weighed. What if the cop was a Ford hater and missed his morning donut?

Then he’d wave me right on by since I don’t drive them things (unless it’s a company truck….so that’s not my problem either!). Lol.

[Flashman]

4x4ord wrote:
^^^ I think the BC law pertaining to pickup trucks pulling rvs is: If a police officer sees that a pickup is obviously overloaded he can have the overloaded truck weighed and ticketed based on the GVWR of the truck. But, I’d be very surprised if a BC cop would ever ticket a new 2500 series diesel pickup, leveled with air bags, towing an 18000 lb fiver.

Pretty vague. If the BC cop can just "see" it's overloaded and decide to have you weighed. What if the cop was a Ford hater and missed his morning donut?

[4x4ord]

^^^ I think the BC law pertaining to pickup trucks pulling rvs is: If a police officer sees that a pickup is obviously overloaded he can have the overloaded truck weighed and ticketed based on the GVWR of the truck. But, I’d be very surprised if a BC cop would ever ticket a new 2500 series diesel pickup, leveled with air bags, towing an 18000 lb fiver.

[Me_Again]

4x4ord wrote:
This could be an issue for some who feel it necessary to stay within the manufacturers maximum tow ratings. For others of us it really doesn’t make an iota bit of difference what the manufacturer’s tow rating is…. If we feel comfortable towing 5,000 lbs over the tow limit we’re probably going to tow 5,000 lbs over the manufacturer’s tow limit …. putting a different sticker on the door pillar isn’t going to change the way the truck behaves.

Except for BC, which somehow enforces weight limits that other areas do not concern themselves with. In my home state of Washington one can purchase tonnage that exceeds that stickers in the door jam. No one with a pickup is going to exceed the Federal Bridge Weight laws that are enforced at weigh stations. Hot shot haulers tend to laugh at the internet weight police.

[4x4ord]

This could be an issue for some who feel it necessary to stay within the manufacturers maximum tow ratings. For others of us it really doesn’t make an iota bit of difference what the manufacturer’s tow rating is…. If we feel comfortable towing 5,000 lbs over the tow limit we’re probably going to tow 5,000 lbs over the manufacturer’s tow limit …. putting a different sticker on the door pillar isn’t going to change the way the truck behaves.

[Grit_dog]

Hope y’all emerge from cabin fever soon….cause ya got it bad, to get 5 pages into this goofy nonsense.

[wjlapier]

Chevy/GMC to follow?

[JRscooby]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Looks like Ford is guilty of towing gate as well.

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Thanks FISH for the truth in lending post!!!

All discussion for last 3 days started when I posted about watching this video

[Cummins12V98]

FishOnOne wrote:
Looks like Ford is guilty of towing gate as well.

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Thanks FISH for the truth in lending post!!!