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Bruce Brown wrote:![[emoticon]](https://forums.motorhome.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
Want to come over and give me a hand?
That would be fun, and would love to but got some other obligations hanging over me right now. Thanks for the invite and love to the family.
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Racklefratz
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rr2254545 wrote:Have to have them when you camp in cold weather like we do
Yes, quality dual-pane windows can be very nice.
But the dirty little secret is that, in the RV industry, a lot of dual pane windows are sub-standard, as are many other components used by RV OEMs; they're prone to problems.
The problem usually manifests itself as fogging betweeen the panes, caused by poor quality seals, and it's not at all uncommon. The Tiffin Class A we bought used had a fogging problem in the passenger side front window when we bought it. We went to the factory service center, which recognized the problem as common, and had it replaced with a single pane assembly they had readily available.
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The best thing to do is replace the dual pane windows that will always leak given enough time with single pane. There are single pane windows that are thicker then normal and have a similar R factor of dual pane. Obviously with single pane you never have to worry about them leaking. The price is about the same as having your dual panes resealed. Funny how we think dual panes in an RV are a big deal........yet we have this huge front widow(windshiel) that is about the size of all the other windows combined and that windshield is NOT dual pane. Save the money and hassle and replace with thicker single pane.
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supercub wrote:The best thing to do is replace the dual pane windows that will always leak given enough time with single pane. There are single pane windows that are thicker then normal and have a similar R factor of dual pane. Obviously with single pane you never have to worry about them leaking. The price is about the same as having your dual panes resealed. Funny how we think dual panes in an RV are a big deal........yet we have this huge front widow(windshiel) that is about the size of all the other windows combined and that windshield is NOT dual pane. Save the money and hassle and replace with thicker single pane.
That sums up my feelings exactly. a single pane window with a thick drape/curtain would be as good.
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So as noted earlier, I decided to tackle this myself and see how it went. I'm happy to report this has gone from a not too fun job to a not too bad job. As with most things, you learn a few things that make the job a little easier as you go along. That has definitely been the case here.
This is what I started with. That window wasn't dirty, that was all between the panes...
![[image]](https://i.imgur.com/1vammBG.jpg)
This was working on it - I had to take over our bar for a few days...
![[image]](https://i.imgur.com/5T17iSi.jpg)
And the finished product, reinstalled...
![[image]](https://i.imgur.com/PdHsz4t.jpg)
That went well enough it was time to do the others. These (2) are both done, the back one has been reinstalled, the front one I'm waiting for a little help getting back in, that one is heavy. The one remaining still needs to be done. That's the emergency escape window so the framework is a little different. Same deal, with a little help removing it I think I can leave the original outer frame in the MH saving a little time overall...
![[image]](https://i.imgur.com/RbOcFdX.jpg)
If anyone decides to take this job on and would like some moral support please feel free to ask - it's not really that bad of a job.
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larry cad
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Nice job Mr. Brown! You can be proud of your work. I also believe that dual pane windows do a lot to keep the RV warm in cold weather and cold in hot weather.
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ro_sie
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Great job! I cant believe that window people cant find a better way to seal those windows! Larry Cad, You are correct. double panes do make them warmer. Hanginin, babies can take a lot of time especially if you are being the main daytime care giver. I did my 4 and then took care of grans so moms could work. Love my grands! Still have one with me full time.
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larry cad
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ro_sie wrote:Great job! I cant believe that window people cant find a better way to seal those windows! Larry Cad, You are correct. double panes do make them warmer. Hanginin, babies can take a lot of time especially if you are being the main daytime care giver. I did my 4 and then took care of grans so moms could work. Love my grands! Still have one with me full time.
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I have the issue with the top panes above the driver and passenger windows, and now the driver side front panel just behind the a-pillar. Because they are each in a combination frame that also holds the slider windows below, I hesitate to attempt a removal/repair. However, here's my plan: I will break out the inside panel; clean and dry well. Then have a glass shop cut replacements to fit (can a glass shop cut/supply tempered glass? If not, perhaps plexiglass instead), and then simply seal them in place with windshield urethane. Am I out of line with this thinking?
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^^^ I certainly wouldn't do it that way. Remember, somebody installed it once so it can be done again.
What you're describing sounds exactly like ours was, the one removed shown above. It wasn't any harder to do than the others. The only thing on that one was the weight. It wasn't terrible, you just needed an extra set of hands.
I ended up doing one of the small windows in one slide end - believe it or not that one was the hardest to disassemble.
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