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pianotuna

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Hi all,

It looks as if LTO batteries are becoming available.

I've written to the company below for pricing on a 100 amp-hour nominal 12 volt battery.

They can be charged at 10 C. (i.e. 1000 amps)

They work from -50 c (-58 f) to 60 C (140 f)

The cycle life is 30,000

Assuming a 100 amp-hour jar:

They can be drawn from at up to 10 C (1000 amps or 12000 watts)

They can be drawn continuously at 3C (300 amps or 3600 watts)

It seems to me that they would be a great choice where battery space is limited.

https://www.osnpower.com/12v100ah-lithui........ery-12v-100ah-lto-battery-pack_p228.html

from OSN POWER

Anyone know much about them?

https://www.osnpower.com/lto-batteries_c10

* This post was last edited 01/01/23 11:29am by pianotuna *   View edit history


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Looks like a Chinese packager or Li-Ion batteries. They take the cells and package them in different configurations for different applications. I have no experience.

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Thermoguy wrote:

Looks like a Chinese packager or Li-Ion batteries. They take the cells and package them in different configurations for different applications. I have no experience.


They do make LiOn and LiFePo4 but LTO is a different battery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-titanate_battery

I would be very interested both 100 AH and around 24AH prices.

Also charging specs. if the OP can respond when the company gets back with them.


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An ‘independent’ (objective) white paper would be useful.

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Some are not as specific but I think the primary use is for start batteries due to higher discharge rates and low temperatures.
But seems OK with deep cycling.

I am curious about how the start batteries and alternator work together.


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FWIW, I came across this link:

https://climatebiz.com/lithium-titanate-batteries/

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pianotuna wrote:

Hi all,

It looks as if LTO batteries are becoming available.

I've written to the company below for pricing on a 100 amp-hour nominal 12 volt battery.

They can be charged at 10 C. (i.e. 1000 amps)

They work from -50 c (-58 f) to 60 C (140 f)

The cycle life is 30,000

Assuming a 100 amp-hour jar:

They can be drawn from at up to 10 C (1000 amps or 12000 watts)

They can be drawn continuously at 3C (300 amps or 3600 watts)

It seems to me that they would be a great choice where battery space is limited.

https://www.osnpower.com/12v100ah-lithui........ery-12v-100ah-lto-battery-pack_p228.html

from OSN POWER

Anyone know much about them?

https://www.osnpower.com/lto-batteries_c10


I'd also ask about the physical size of a 100 amp hour 12V battery. Since it appears that the energy density is close to 1/3 that of a standard lithium battery, it may be impracticably large.


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Since they are rated to 10° F and use with "electric skateboards"
I would make sure they are "Thunder Proof"

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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

Since they are rated to 10° F and use with "electric skateboards"
I would make sure they are "Thunder Proof"


-50 C; -58 F to 60 C; 140 F

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vermilye wrote:



I'd also ask about the physical size of a 100 amp hour 12V battery. Since it appears that the energy density is close to 1/3 that of a standard lithium battery, it may be impracticably large.


Dimension: 281(H)*528(L)*240(W)mm

or

11" (H) 21" (L) 9.5 " (W)

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