RoyJ
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Either abuse (Baja related...) or frame deterioration via rust / drilling.
Even if it's overloaded, it's within a 1000 lbs of GVW. That's less then 10%. I've NEVER seen a properly designed frame fail with such a slight overload. We're not talking a Ford Ranger hauling an EC1165 here.
Think about dump trucks dumping a transfer trailer - they're overloading 200 - 300% momentarily, and do this day in day out.
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Cummins12V98
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RCMAN46 said: "What transmission did you have to have replaced?"
I had a very slight amount of weeping on my AISIN so I decided to have them reseal it under warranty. The Trans guy at the Dealer has a great rep in the Valley. Bottom line he rarely touched an AISIN and assumed like many other trans you could simply split it and replace the gasket. WRONG!!! He actually ordered a new gasket and did the seal a second time tested it and all was well. I get 45 miles from home when the "trans too hot" appears and lost most all power.
Upon further investigation by the tech he said the proper procedure was to remove the trans and have tail upright separate and add new gasket and re assemble.
The Dealer turned it in on my Warranty and as I said I had to tell them my weights I was towing along with my receipts for fluid and filter changes.
I wish I had just left the slight seepage, oh well! I do have a 2 year 100k additional warranty now.
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Cummins12V98
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RoyJ wrote:Either abuse (Baja related...) or frame deterioration via rust / drilling.
Even if it's overloaded, it's within a 1000 lbs of GVW. That's less then 10%. I've NEVER seen a properly designed frame fail with such a slight overload. We're not talking a Ford Ranger hauling an EC1165 here.
Think about dump trucks dumping a transfer trailer - they're overloading 200 - 300% momentarily, and do this day in day out.
Whole lotta speculation! Don't think OP has ever said what caused this to happen?????
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Cummins12V98 wrote:RCMAN46 said: "What transmission did you have to have replaced?"
I had a very slight amount of weeping on my AISIN so I decided to have them reseal it under warranty. The Trans guy at the Dealer has a great rep in the Valley. Bottom line he rarely touched an AISIN and assumed like many other trans you could simply split it and replace the gasket. WRONG!!! He actually ordered a new gasket and did the seal a second time tested it and all was well. I get 45 miles from home when the "trans too hot" appears and lost most all power.
Upon further investigation by the tech he said the proper procedure was to remove the trans and have tail upright separate and add new gasket and re assemble.
The Dealer turned it in on my Warranty and as I said I had to tell them my weights I was towing along with my receipts for fluid and filter changes.
I wish I had just left the slight seepage, oh well! I do have a 2 year 100k additional warranty now.
So the dealer performed the work improperly, which resulted in damage, and they filed it under the warranty. I know/am sure it's done all the time, but that's just plain wrong. Dealer should have sucked it up because they basically got paid by the warranty department to fix their screw up, not a failed part.
Wonder what they would have done if the warranty department said they wouldn't cover it, for whatever reason. Since you had to demonstrate you stayed within all specs, had fluid changes on schedule etc, Im pretty positive they never told warranty department it was THEIR screw up.
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valhalla360
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Cummins12V98 wrote:Geo*Boy wrote:cptqueeg wrote:EC 1165 dry weight 4917lbs
Lots and lots of heavy options, big water tanks (-150 gal fresh, grey, black), etc, etc.
Definitely OVERLOADED!!
Are you kidding??? I have 6k pin weight and that places me right at my SAE RAWR of 9,750#. NOT hardly overloaded at all.
5er pin weight is much easier on the truck frame vs a truck camper. The load transfers almost directly down into the springs and axles. Very little bending force in the frame.
A monster truck camper with 1000-1500lb 6-8ft behind the axle gets rocking, it can put drastically more bending force on the frame.
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I hauled a longer slide in for 15 years in my 1991 F250. It had a 12.5ft bed length, 20.5ft overall. The camper was a little lighter than this one but I also frequently towed a 4,000lb boat on a 4.5ft long stinger behind the camper. I did get some frame flexing on that setup. It was definitely overloaded but the frame never broke. That much newer Ram should have about twice the frame that I had.
I never had all three tanks full at the same time. I always emptied at least the grey tank before filling the water tank. The grey tank in mine was behind the rear bumper. I didn't drive anywhere with much in it. A full tank that far back really messed up the steering.
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valhalla360 wrote:bucky wrote:@Time2Roll The interweb says that a tope is excessive alcohol consumption. What did you mean to type?
If the truck wasn't bought new I'd say it's a salt water flood victim.
Speed bumps in Mexico are called Topes.
The difference is they are 2-3 times higher and extremely abrupt compared to speed bumps in the USA.
Hit one at 60mph and expect damage.
Thanks for the explanation.
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FlatBroke wrote:....
I'm a little confused, as usual.
FlatBroke, is that your truck? Or is the picture just off the internet (as I think someone else posted seeing it)?
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No, it’s not my truck. But did haul a very heavy camper on my “03” Duramax 2500HD. I can’t imagine anything not being a handful with that Eagle Cap.
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Cummins12V98
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Walaby wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:RCMAN46 said: "What transmission did you have to have replaced?"
I had a very slight amount of weeping on my AISIN so I decided to have them reseal it under warranty. The Trans guy at the Dealer has a great rep in the Valley. Bottom line he rarely touched an AISIN and assumed like many other trans you could simply split it and replace the gasket. WRONG!!! He actually ordered a new gasket and did the seal a second time tested it and all was well. I get 45 miles from home when the "trans too hot" appears and lost most all power.
Upon further investigation by the tech he said the proper procedure was to remove the trans and have tail upright separate and add new gasket and re assemble.
The Dealer turned it in on my Warranty and as I said I had to tell them my weights I was towing along with my receipts for fluid and filter changes.
I wish I had just left the slight seepage, oh well! I do have a 2 year 100k additional warranty now.
So the dealer performed the work improperly, which resulted in damage, and they filed it under the warranty. I know/am sure it's done all the time, but that's just plain wrong. Dealer should have sucked it up because they basically got paid by the warranty department to fix their screw up, not a failed part.
Wonder what they would have done if the warranty department said they wouldn't cover it, for whatever reason. Since you had to demonstrate you stayed within all specs, had fluid changes on schedule etc, Im pretty positive they never told warranty department it was THEIR screw up.
Mike
I was prepared to go to the next level as the Dealer has insurance for such things. I agree it's not right but I was not going to step into it, until.....
The mechanic is a very honest guy he straight up told me what happened.
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