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Grit dog

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I’d say you’re trying too hard to find a solution to nothing.
The libby EVers on this forum would tell you how you could sell it back to the utility company.
Just don’t ask them to run the numbers as to whether it’s feasible….lol.


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I love the *idea* of ultrasonic pest repellents. As I have been thinking about how to use this wasted power, this might be on the top of my list (along with a fan). I could put two in each RV, they are inexpensive, and they draw very little power. But...Do they work???

Many many internet google reviews and youtube videos seem to indicate that such devices do not work (or help very little). But if I look to buy online, like here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BFPM5BF7 I see 13,865 reviews/ratings and 93% of them (...almost 13,000 people) gave it 4 or 5 stars out of 5. Are there that many fake review bots on amazon to boost so many 4-5 star reviews?

I guess the bottom line might be...they are cheap enough and draw such little power so why not?

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This is an expensive idea but might fit your uses. Buy a few so called solar batteries and swap them out to be used other places on a regular bases. I have 4kw of those batteries for use during short power outages at home. I just charge them from the wall but if I had a motor home with a bunch of solar sitting in the back yard I would store them there and swap them into the shop to use the power. My process now for longer power outages is to charge them with a generator so I don't have the generator running all the time. I have thought abut picking up some solar panels to recharge them but they are still on the maybe list.

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May as well power up a security system to record and monitor activity around the RV.


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JimBollman wrote:

This is an expensive idea but might fit your uses. Buy a few so called solar batteries and swap them out to be used other places on a regular bases. I have 4kw of those batteries for use during short power outages at home. I just charge them from the wall but if I had a motor home with a bunch of solar sitting in the back yard I would store them there and swap them into the shop to use the power. My process now for longer power outages is to charge them with a generator so I don't have the generator running all the time. I have thought abut picking up some solar panels to recharge them but they are still on the maybe list.


Thanks for the suggestion. Thankfully, I do not have power outages at my home except on very rare occasions so I don't really have the need for backup batteries for that. In the event that my power was out for any annoying length of time, I can always bring my RV home and run the generator and extension cord to the house to power a few items.

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Grit dog wrote:

I’d say you’re trying too hard to find a solution to nothing.
The libby EVers on this forum would tell you how you could sell it back to the utility company.
Just don’t ask them to run the numbers as to whether it’s feasible….lol.


I have run the numbers for a partial year. The return on the investment was over 4%. That number does not include any government grants. System was active starting in May.

One does have to have the cold hard cash to pay for the system.


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I like the security system idea, maybe add a small battery to the security system, so it would be active 24/7 aka night, the camera use would be returned to the battery during the day


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pianotuna wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

I’d say you’re trying too hard to find a solution to nothing.
The libby EVers on this forum would tell you how you could sell it back to the utility company.
Just don’t ask them to run the numbers as to whether it’s feasible….lol.


I have run the numbers for a partial year. The return on the investment was over 4%. That number does not include any government grants. System was active starting in May.

One does have to have the cold hard cash to pay for the system.


You’re selling power from your RV batteries back to the electric company?

Fundamentally that doesn’t make financial sense to me. You’re saying you could purchase, build and operate your own solar powered system (like an off grid system except larger to power all the systems and conveniences of a typical home) cheaper than the utilities rates?

Interesting.

* This post was edited 12/15/22 01:57pm by Grit dog *

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Grit dog wrote:

pianotuna wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

I’d say you’re trying too hard to find a solution to nothing.
The libby EVers on this forum would tell you how you could sell it back to the utility company.
Just don’t ask them to run the numbers as to whether it’s feasible….lol.


I have run the numbers for a partial year. The return on the investment was over 4%. That number does not include any government grants. System was active starting in May.

One does have to have the cold hard cash to pay for the system.


You’re selling power from your RV batteries back to the electric company?

Fundamentally that doesn’t make financial sense to me. You’re saying you could purchase, build and operate your own solar powered system (like an off grid system except larger to power all the systems and conveniences of a typical home) cheaper than the utilities rates?

Interesting.


The issue is most net-metering plans effectively pay you full retail price for electricity...not the wholesale price that a typical electric producer would get paid.

So if you have a solar system already for the RV and can easily connect it to the grid, yeah, it can pay off.
- As an individual playing the system it makes great sense.
- In terms of the larger community system, it's an expensive way to generate power and your neighbors wind up subsidizing you.


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valhalla360 wrote:

- As an individual playing the system it makes great sense.
- In terms of the larger community system, it's an expensive way to generate power and your neighbors wind up subsidizing you.


I don't see how that can be said.

Most grid tied "sales" are at the wholesale rate. i.e. about 50% of what is charged by the electric utility company.

Most also "zero" the credit balance (if any) once per year.

The only power source that is cheaper than solar is wind. Wind does require more maintenance.

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