toedtoes
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Lwiddis wrote:“Mandate electric cars by 2035….” Why couldn’t the Legislature extend this date if necessary?
This date is only mandated IF the infrastructure can handle it AND the technology allows for it.
The actual mandate is to encourage technological advances in the EV arena. If that doesn't happen, then the mandate doesn't take effect.
The only stupid thing regarding any of this is all the idiots who whine about this mandate while their states eliminate human rights and freedoms. But I guess being a bunch of old white men, they just don't have to worry about the rest...
Yet.
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I was just considering the amount of pollution released by ice engines in the recent storm in Florida. Every car, truck, lawn mower, and flooded boat released gasoline and oil into the environment. And a recent poster was only concerned about EV car batteries exploding.
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rhagfo wrote:Lwiddis wrote:Keep guessing! Refueling ICEs in the very early days was done by buying gasoline in one gallon containers from a hardware store. Lead, follow or get out of the way. California chooses to lead.
They lead with the with the cart before the horse. Mandate electric cars by 2035, but don’t have the electrical grid capacity to support it. Can they build it up that soon, only time will tell.
They *do* have the capacity, they say so in the study. The excess capacity has shifted from night to early and mid-day due to improvements in Solar and they're saying that consumers should change habits OR big changes need to be made to the grid.
From the study posted:
Quote:Today, California has excess electricity during late mornings and early afternoons, thanks mainly to its solar capacity. If most EVs were to charge during these times, then the cheap power would be used instead of wasted. Alternatively, if most EVs continue to charge at night, then the state will need to build more generators – likely powered by natural gas – or expensive energy storage on a large scale. Electricity going first to a huge battery and then to an EV battery loses power from the extra stop.
And this study also looks at all of the western states and says so several times. Our grid in the U.S. has been on life support for decades, just look at what happened in Texas. That wasn't due to EV charging.
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Jeez, the short bussers can't go a day w/o starting another hysterical EV panty wad thread. SMH....
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toedtoes wrote:Lwiddis wrote:“Mandate electric cars by 2035….” Why couldn’t the Legislature extend this date if necessary?
This date is only mandated IF the infrastructure can handle it AND the technology allows for it.
The actual mandate is to encourage technological advances in the EV arena. If that doesn't happen, then the mandate doesn't take effect.
The only stupid thing regarding any of this is all the idiots who whine about this mandate while their states eliminate human rights and freedoms. But I guess being a bunch of old white men, they just don't have to worry about the rest...
Yet.
Are you Joy Behar in real life?
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Lwiddis wrote:“Mandate electric cars by 2035….” Why couldn’t the Legislature extend this date if necessary?
What about the unintended consequences associated with the people that plan for this drop dead date?
I guess its their own fault for living in or owning a business in California...?
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toedtoes wrote:The only stupid thing regarding any of this is all the idiots who whine about this mandate while their states eliminate human rights and freedoms. But I guess being a bunch of old white men, they just don't have to worry about the rest...
Yet.
Name calling... check!
Complaining about "freedom" when one party isn't trying to change our history... check!
Bringing in a racial component... check!
The Party is strong in this one! Just a word of caution, if you never change the channel, that MSNBC graphic will eventually burn an image into your TV screen!
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propchef wrote:And this study also looks at all of the western states and says so several times. Our grid in the U.S. has been on life support for decades, just look at what happened in Texas. That wasn't due to EV charging. Texas is a completely independent grid from other states. They got what they didn't plan for.
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spoon059 wrote:toedtoes wrote:The only stupid thing regarding any of this is all the idiots who whine about this mandate while their states eliminate human rights and freedoms. But I guess being a bunch of old white men, they just don't have to worry about the rest...
Yet.
Name calling... check!
Complaining about "freedom" when one party isn't trying to change our history... check!
Bringing in a racial component... check!
The Party is strong in this one! Just a word of caution, if you never change the channel, that MSNBC graphic will eventually burn an image into your TV screen!
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BCSnob
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If adoption of EVs will crash the grid, and a crashed grid would make conditions ripe for a civil war; why isn’t faux news promoting the adoption of EVs? ![[emoticon]](https://forums.motorhome.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/scratchead.gif "scratchead")
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