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Blaster Man

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Posted: 12/28/22 04:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Michelin is having a rough time with 22.5" MH tires. They are having so many problems with cracking, they have published a document with pictures showing three levels of cracking, going from ok to use, to change now. I changed my Michelins at 30k and five and a half years due to cracking. I don't care what they say, I'm not heading out with cracked tires...I've had a RF blowout, and don't want another.
Go to one of the big RV forums, like iRV2.com (https://www.irv2.com/forums/) and check what the readers say about Michelins.


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I put Toyo M144 315/80/22.5 on the steers in July and love them.


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Nothing about tires. I get some sort of Hughes commercial.

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On the fourth Class A

In 38 yrs of RVing only have had Michelin on all four.

Looked at others but always told, "yes they are cheaper but not as good of a ride""

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RodLyle wrote:

On the fourth Class A

In 38 yrs of RVing only have had Michelin on all four.

Looked at others but always told, "yes they are cheaper but not as good of a ride""

So how do you know if others ride/handle just as well if not better? 40 years nothing but Michelin, will never buy another.


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Ivylog wrote:

RodLyle wrote:

On the fourth Class A

In 38 yrs of RVing only have had Michelin on all four.

Looked at others but always told, "yes they are cheaper but not as good of a ride""

So how do you know if others ride/handle just as well if not better? 40 years nothing but Michelin, will never buy another.


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I've never had a problem with Michelins on a car or pick up, and this latest issue with the RV 22.5" tires seems to be relatively new. But there is no doubt, they are doing something, or putting something into the tire that is causing serious problems. I'm convinced some of the new RV manufacturers still put Michelins on their RVs because of their reputation....which is now heading south rapidly.

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Blaster Man wrote:

I've never had a problem with Michelins on a car or pick up, and this latest issue with the RV 22.5" tires seems to be relatively new. But there is no doubt, they are doing something, or putting something into the tire that is causing serious problems. I'm convinced some of the new RV manufacturers still put Michelins on their RVs because of their reputation....which is now heading south rapidly.


Michelin's issues aren't all recent.

Back when we had our '03 we had a tire blow, while it was parked in our garage. The MH was only a few months old and I am diligent on air pressures.

The sidewall blew and the steel cords had some rust on them. As usual, Michelin refused to accept any blame. No problem, I want the tire back. Why they asked. When I said I wanted to get all the codes off the tire so I could file a complaint with NTHSA they changed their tune and decided maybe they could help us.

I watched that tire and Michelin ended up changing the specs on it 3 times in one year.

I will freely admit I am not a Michelin fan. Between all of the cars, trucks, and motorhomes we've bought we've had a lot of Michelin tires. I can honestly say in my lifetime we've had one set that I was happy with - coincidentally it was the set that came on our current MH, and they were great.

My last (3) Super Dutys all came with Michelin's, a 60,000 mile rated tire. The best set made it 33,000 miles before it would not longer pass NYS inspection, the worst set made it a whole 28,000 miles.

For my money, Michelin is never even on the list of tires I'd consider. I've just been stung too many times.


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Bruce Brown wrote:

Blaster Man wrote:

I've never had a problem with Michelins on a car or pick up, and this latest issue with the RV 22.5" tires seems to be relatively new. But there is no doubt, they are doing something, or putting something into the tire that is causing serious problems. I'm convinced some of the new RV manufacturers still put Michelins on their RVs because of their reputation....which is now heading south rapidly.


Michelin's issues aren't all recent.

Back when we had our '03 we had a tire blow, while it was parked in our garage. The MH was only a few months old and I am diligent on air pressures.

The sidewall blew and the steel cords had some rust on them. As usual, Michelin refused to accept any blame. No problem, I want the tire back. Why they asked. When I said I wanted to get all the codes off the tire so I could file a complaint with NTHSA they changed their tune and decided maybe they could help us.

I watched that tire and Michelin ended up changing the specs on it 3 times in one year.

I will freely admit I am not a Michelin fan. Between all of the cars, trucks, and motorhomes we've bought we've had a lot of Michelin tires. I can honestly say in my lifetime we've had one set that I was happy with - coincidentally it was the set that came on our current MH, and they were great.

My last (3) Super Dutys all came with Michelin's, a 60,000 mile rated tire. The best set made it 33,000 miles before it would not longer pass NYS inspection, the worst set made it a whole 28,000 miles.

For my money, Michelin is never even on the list of tires I'd consider. I've just been stung too many times.


Interesting. I've been running Michelins on all my SUVs for over 20 years, during which time I've also tried Goodyear, Bridgestones, and Cooper. The Michelins always road the best, especially after about 15,000 to 20,000 miles. The others would begin to ride hard, whereas the Michelin's ride did not degrade. (averaged about 40k miles per year). That said, I NEVER got the mileage ratings out of the Michelins. I was always about 20% short, and that was with mostly highway driving. The last 3 sets Michelin has given me a 10-15% discount (pro-rated) due to not reaching the mileage rating.

On the RV I tried the Toyo M-154 and have been very pleased. I've noticed no difference in the ride or handling compared to the Michelins, but saved about $125 per tire.

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From what I have read, most Michelin problems appear to be on the 22.5" RV tires, no problems with smaller tires on sedans, SUVs and pickups.

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