JIMNLIN
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Heard all the same whining from anti gov peoples about the mean old govnmt mandated clean air/better fuel mileage back in the '70s/80s that resulted in doing away with the old gazz guzzling carbureted heavy pollution engines resulting in computer/FI engines that burn much cleaner.
Fed vehicle pollution rules are rules and there for good reasons. The Ram owner as other law breakers found out the hard way not following (any) rules can be costly.
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Me Again
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JIMNLIN wrote:Heard all the same whining from anti gov peoples about the mean old govnmt mandated clean air/better fuel mileage back in the '70s/80s that resulted in doing away with the old gazz guzzling carbureted heavy pollution engines resulting in computer/FI engines that burn much cleaner.
Fed vehicle pollution rules are rules and there for good reasons. The Ram owner as other law breakers found out the hard way not following (any) rules can be costly.
I am on forums for Can Am Spyder three wheel motor cycles, Kawasaki KRX side by sides and now CFmoto ATV among others which all have the cat embedded in the muffler. Vendors post about their replacement exhaust systems and users brag about this one or that one(which do not include a cat). What part about what we are doing to the planet do people not understand????
Is it when your house is flooded, washed way, blown away or under the sea when a person wakes up?
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rhagfo
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Me Again wrote:JIMNLIN wrote:Heard all the same whining from anti gov peoples about the mean old govnmt mandated clean air/better fuel mileage back in the '70s/80s that resulted in doing away with the old gazz guzzling carbureted heavy pollution engines resulting in computer/FI engines that burn much cleaner.
Fed vehicle pollution rules are rules and there for good reasons. The Ram owner as other law breakers found out the hard way not following (any) rules can be costly.
I am on forums for Can Am Spyder three wheel motor cycles, Kawasaki KRX side by sides and now CFmoto ATV among others which all have the cat embedded in the muffler. Vendors post about their replacement exhaust systems and users brag about this one or that one(which do not include a cat). What part about what we are doing to the planet do people not understand????
Is it when your house is flooded, washed way, blown away or under the sea when a person wakes up?
I couldn't agree more, my 2001 would occasionally puff a little smoke, not my favorite thing. Our 2016 Ram 3500 you can rub the inside of the tailpipe and no soot.
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Bobmontana
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I thought this was America!?
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JRscooby
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Bobmontana wrote:I thought this was America!?
Yes it is. And to me the idea and ideals of Government of the people, by the people, for the people should mean we vote for people to pass regulations that will do the most good for the most people. The fact is clean air regulations have improved the life for a large majority of the population. And US regulations have helped worldwide.
IMHO, you should have a right to run the dirty exhaust you want, as long as that exhaust stays in your house.
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pianotuna
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PButler96 wrote:It sure is ironic that we have planet saving preachers on an RV forum who have the largest RV they could lay their hands on, which requires damaging the planet by the use of fossil fuels to drive or pull it, and most everything in or on it required fossil fuels to produce either directly or indirectly. Then they also have a need for all sorts of unnecessary planet killing fossil fuel burning toys like side by sides, Spyders, dirt bikes, you name it. Preach on.
Well it started back in the 60's, and in the early 70's the smog pumps went on and people deleted them. You would turn your car off but it kept running. Then came EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection)what a difference that made! Also solid state distributors, and now coil packs. All meant More power less polution and cars that went 100,000 miles before needing a tune up, not replacing points every 10K to 20K, along with plugs.
Diesels went from mechanical injection pumps and injectors, with a single shot of fuel, to common rail and electronic injectors with multi pulse injection. Makes for a quieter diesel and help make the crazy horse power we have today with a lot less pollution being created!!
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Me Again
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PButler96 wrote:It sure is ironic that we have planet saving preachers on an RV forum who have the largest RV they could lay their hands on, which requires damaging the planet by the use of fossil fuels to drive or pull it, and most everything in or on it required fossil fuels to produce either directly or indirectly. Then they also have a need for all sorts of unnecessary planet killing fossil fuel burning toys like side by sides, Spyders, dirt bikes, you name it. Preach on.
And they all have there require smog equipment still in place!!! This thread is about people that remove the smog stuff.
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PButler96
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Me Again wrote:
This thread is about people that remove the smog stuff.
Started out that way, then it went full blown hypocrisy.
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FishOnOne
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rhagfo wrote:Me Again wrote:JIMNLIN wrote:Heard all the same whining from anti gov peoples about the mean old govnmt mandated clean air/better fuel mileage back in the '70s/80s that resulted in doing away with the old gazz guzzling carbureted heavy pollution engines resulting in computer/FI engines that burn much cleaner.
Fed vehicle pollution rules are rules and there for good reasons. The Ram owner as other law breakers found out the hard way not following (any) rules can be costly.
I am on forums for Can Am Spyder three wheel motor cycles, Kawasaki KRX side by sides and now CFmoto ATV among others which all have the cat embedded in the muffler. Vendors post about their replacement exhaust systems and users brag about this one or that one(which do not include a cat). What part about what we are doing to the planet do people not understand????
Is it when your house is flooded, washed way, blown away or under the sea when a person wakes up?
I couldn't agree more, my 2001 would occasionally puff a little smoke, not my favorite thing. Our 2016 Ram 3500 you can rub the inside of the tailpipe and no soot.
Kind of have to wonder if that occasional puff of little smoke compared to energy/emissions from the factories producing, packaging and shipping DEF to the stores. The factories producing the additional emissions equipment like DPF's, DEF pumps/tanks, EGR coolers/valves. The extra diesel to regen to burn off the carbon collected in the DPF. All this to eliminate that little puff of little smoke.
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