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Observation--newer trucks tow fivers a bit nose high

Curly2001
Explorer
Explorer
Just came back from a 6,000 mile trip and noticed many of the newer pickups are towing fivers a bit nose high. I do the same due to the later model trucks being built that way. Just curious if anyone else has seen the same thing.
Curly

2019 Chev. Double cab 2500HD, 6.0, 4:10 diffs, six speed auto
2013 Heartland Sundance XLT 265RK
2019 Chev. Double cab 2500HD, 6.0, 4:10 diffs, six speed auto
2013 Heartland Sundance XLT 265RK
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Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
Learjet wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
ford truck guy wrote:
^^^ to this point ^^^

I carry a folding step that I need to use to get my locking pin released when un hoking the fifth wheel... I'm 5'11"

Could possibly make it, but would struggle, I learnt to work smarter in my older age, thus the telescoping magnet to grab the pin, and the step to reach the pinhole.


Come out West and I will make you a proper step.



I could use one of those...I just grab the bed rail with my right foot on the tire and pull myself up...but at 55 years old and 250 lbs... those days are getting numbered.

By the way, just got back from a 1,500 mile round trip pulling the Pinnacle...the Ram turned over 55,000 miles on this trip...running like a champ right now ๐Ÿ™‚


I do have one setting in my shop.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
ford truck guy wrote:
Ron,
If I come out west, were hoping on that boat and catching some shrimp, then fish, then if time allows building a step!!


Sounds good to me!!!

White KING, very tasty!!!

2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

mdcamping
Explorer
Explorer
I'm just north of 6', I keep a 2' step ladder for getting inside the truck bed with cap, I have found the ford tail gate ladder to high off the ground for my arthritic knees. I remember shopping trucks last year seemed the GM & Dodge products had lower to the ground running boards, wished ford offered the same as that has been in issue for DW

Mike
2022 F-150 3.5 EcoBoost 4X4 Supercrew GCWR 19,500 157WB
Payload 2476 Maxtow 13,800 3.73 Equalizer 4 Pt Sway Hitch
2017 Jayco Jay Flight 24RBS
Old TV, 07 Toyota Tacoma, Double Cab, Factory Tow Pkg, retired towing at 229K. (Son now owns truck)

Learjet
Explorer
Explorer
Cummins12V98 wrote:
ford truck guy wrote:
^^^ to this point ^^^

I carry a folding step that I need to use to get my locking pin released when un hoking the fifth wheel... I'm 5'11"

Could possibly make it, but would struggle, I learnt to work smarter in my older age, thus the telescoping magnet to grab the pin, and the step to reach the pinhole.


Come out West and I will make you a proper step.



I could use one of those...I just grab the bed rail with my right foot on the tire and pull myself up...but at 55 years old and 250 lbs... those days are getting numbered.

By the way, just got back from a 1,500 mile round trip pulling the Pinnacle...the Ram turned over 55,000 miles on this trip...running like a champ right now ๐Ÿ™‚
2017 Ram Big Horn, DRW Long Box, 4x4, Cummins, Aisin, 3.73
2022 Jayco Pinnacle 32RLTS, Onan 5500, Disc Brakes, 17.5" tires
B&W Ram Companion

valhalla360
Nomad II
Nomad II
FlatBroke wrote:
My โ€œ03โ€ GMC Duramax looks about the same as the latest Canyons. ๐Ÿ˜‰


Yeah, my first car was a 1886 S-15. Not suitable for towing but comparing it to the new "compact" pickups, the new ones are pretty much the same size as 1/2 ton trucks.

If I didn't need a tow vehicle, I would look at Ford's new Mavrick. Seems like they are offering a small truck again.
Tammy & Mike
Ford F250 V10
2021 Gray Wolf
Gemini Catamaran 34'
Full Time spliting time between boat and RV

Ron,
If I come out west, were hoping on that boat and catching some shrimp, then fish, then if time allows building a step!!
Me-Her-the kids
2020 Ford F350 SD 6.7
2020 Redwood 3991RD Garnet

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
ford truck guy wrote:
^^^ to this point ^^^

I carry a folding step that I need to use to get my locking pin released when un hoking the fifth wheel... I'm 5'11"

Could possibly make it, but would struggle, I learnt to work smarter in my older age, thus the telescoping magnet to grab the pin, and the step to reach the pinhole.


Come out West and I will make you a proper step.

2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

Retired_JSO
Explorer
Explorer
In our recent interstate travels, we see many trucks actually doing the squat. We see many SRW trucks and even a few DRWs appear to be carrying a bit more pin weight than they should.

FlatBroke
Explorer
Explorer
My โ€œ03โ€ GMC Duramax looks about the same as the latest Canyons. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Hitch Hiker
"08" 29.5 FKTG LS

bucky
Explorer II
Explorer II
Dually fenders make it even harder to reach the 5er hitch. I use a little white plastic folding step and I'm 6'2".
Puma 30RKSS

Lwiddis
Explorer
Explorer
If trucks werenโ€™t taller than in the old days how could manufacturers and aftermarket companies sell hoop steps and running boards?
Winnebago 2101DS TT & 2022 Chevy Silverado 1500 LTZ Z71, WindyNation 300 watt solar-Lossigy 200 AH Lithium battery. Prefer boondocking, USFS, COE, BLM, NPS, TVA, state camps. Bicyclist. 14 yr. Army -11B40 then 11A - (MOS 1542 & 1560) IOBC & IOAC grad

ferndaleflyer
Explorer III
Explorer III
And with the nose higher the rear tires on the trailer are now carrying most of the weight. With any kind of trailer, 5th wheel, goose neck, bumper pull, I always try to get it as level as possible, especially ones with 3 axels.

Curly2001
Explorer
Explorer
The added truck height is killing me, on a good day I am 5'8" and it is a chore to get into the truck. I thought I had measured the old truck correctly but I must have missed something. The odd thing is that the top of the bed rails were very close to the same height as the new truck but somewhere, the bed height grew. Thanks for the responses.
Curly
2019 Chev. Double cab 2500HD, 6.0, 4:10 diffs, six speed auto
2013 Heartland Sundance XLT 265RK

bsbeedub
Explorer
Explorer
Mine is a 2WD and still too high. If I didnโ€™t know better I would swear itโ€™s a 4WD. I canโ€™t reach over the bed rails at the rear and touch the bed and Iโ€™m 5โ€™11โ€.
Bob & Susan
Shelby the Beagle June 8, 2005 - Dec. 24, 2016
2018 Ram 3500 6.4 HEMI, long bed, 4.10โ€™s
2021 Coachman Chaparral Lite 25 RE
2011 Gulfstream Ameri-Lite 23BW - retired
2003 Dodge Ram 1500 - retired