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More comments: Who goes camping without an ice chest, cook stove, bags of food, or a lawn chair? Also, there were plenty of external driving shots of the truck which suggests a support vehicle (maybe with a generator) and a crew. My guess is they all stayed in motels, which from my point of view, says nothing about the truck and its capabilities.
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Durb wrote:More comments: Who goes camping without an ice chest, cook stove, bags of food, or a lawn chair? Also, there were plenty of external driving shots of the truck which suggests a support vehicle (maybe with a generator) and a crew. My guess is they all stayed in motels, which from my point of view, says nothing about the truck and its capabilities.
This is the The Fast Lane Truck doing a driving experience. I have no doubt that they are telling the truth.
As to the camper, it is a pop up, I see these on many small pickups.
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FishOnOne I just saw the same article and when trying to do truck things such as hauling a 5 or 6 thousand lb trailer for any long distance it was a bad performer compared to the ICE GM truck of same type. Non haul performance cut in half and could not make it to required charge station and forced to turn back. Required to many charges to complete the trip. Otherwise, a great looking grocery getter.
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Turtle n Peeps wrote:If FLT wants to show the viability of camping in an EV truck so be it. Hook it up to a 24 to 26 foot travel trailer (the gross majority of what F150 owners camp with) and have at it. To put some dumb canopy on the back of the thing and call it camping is lame. That's not what the majority of Americans do The most recent figures I could find were 2019. They show for North American campers 59% choose tents, 24% RVs and 16% cabins. So a clear majority(gross?) choose something other than RVs. Obviously the definition of camping varies and it seems an odd thing to get worked up about.![[emoticon]](https://forums.motorhome.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/scratchead.gif "scratchead")
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59% choose camping in a tent??? I find that to be astonishing; it would be very helpful if you would post links to your reference material.
Maybe it's just me, but I tend to disregard references to data/surveys/studies/etc. that don't include a link; makes me think they are hiding something they don't want the rest of us to see (or it's just plain made up facts to begin with).
For instance, do they include a pop-up as a tent? Does it include camping in the backyard with the kids for funsy? What about Hybrids? etc. etc. etc.
(edited - "unbelievable" was a bad choice of words, more like "astonishing")
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nickthehunter wrote:59% choose camping in a tent??? I find that to be unbelievable; it would be very helpful if you would post links to your reference material.
Maybe it's just me, but I tend to disregard references to data/surveys/studies/etc. that don't include a link; makes me think they are hiding something they don't want the rest of us to see (or it's just plain made up facts to begin with).
For instance, do they include a pop-up as a tent? What about Hybrids? etc. etc. etc.
I agree, links and references are good to support a claim, however I don't find it unbelievable. A lot of people camp in tents that you'll never see in a campground. Backwoods, epic hikes, beach camping, bike camping, backyard camping, scouts etc. I think about all the people that hike the Appalachian trail annually. Things like that.
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nickthehunter wrote:59% choose camping in a tent??? I find that to be astonishing; it would be very helpful if you would post links to your reference material.
Maybe it's just me, but I tend to disregard references to data/surveys/studies/etc. that don't include a link; makes me think they are hiding something they don't want the rest of us to see (or it's just plain made up facts to begin with).
For instance, do they include a pop-up as a tent? What about Hybrids? etc. etc. etc.
Here's a link to KOA's survey that shows almost exactly that for 2022, that 56% tent camp as opposed to 22% who use an RV of some type. It's been that way for years.
http://koa.uberflip.com/i/1465395-2022-koa-na-camping-report/43?
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way2roll wrote:nickthehunter wrote:59% choose camping in a tent??? I find that to be unbelievable; it would be very helpful if you would post links to your reference material.
Maybe it's just me, but I tend to disregard references to data/surveys/studies/etc. that don't include a link; makes me think they are hiding something they don't want the rest of us to see (or it's just plain made up facts to begin with).
For instance, do they include a pop-up as a tent? What about Hybrids? etc. etc. etc.
I agree, links and references are good to support a claim, however I don't find it unbelievable. A lot of people camp in tents that you'll never see in a campground. Backwoods, epic hikes, beach camping, bike camping, backyard camping, scouts etc. I think about all the people that hike the Appalachian trail annually. Things like that.
Add the Pacific crest trail from Mexico to Canadian border. I reference a place I've spent the night before. On literally a 1000" of snow and ice at the 11000' mark of my Rainier. One can add the 100 mile Wonderland trail going around Rainier.
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shelbyfv
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Nicky wrote:59% choose camping in a tent??? I find that to be astonishing; it would be very helpful if you would post links to your reference material.
Here's the link I found. Linky As others have pointed out, the percentages seem to be in line with other sources. It doesn't hurt to remember that most backpackers, tent campers and the general public would roll their eyes when we describe staying in our air conditioned, fully hooked up mobile homes as "camping."
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Ignoring the chest puffing over what qualifies as camping....
This is an RV site and it is at best marginal to call a pickup with a bed cap an RV and really irrelevant when talking about range. There is nothing camping specific about the setup vs just road tripping and staying in hotels.
So back to the subject, even if we accept it's an RV used for camping, it's still far more challenging to use for the average person with routing often dominated by where the next charging station is and how long you will have to wait.
Once you get into what most people would consider an RV/Camper...it's really not viable. There are rare niche users such as if you are full timing and rarely travel more than 150 miles in a day followed by a day or two plugged in while pulling a teardrop camper, it can be viable but that's a pretty small niche market and even that use case has significant tradeoffs.
For most people, in particular the weekend warriors, it's just not viable to pull 300-400miles in a day having to stop for an hour or more multiple times where you may have to unhook the trailer while keeping the kids occupied during the stops. It simply becomes impractical for most common RV use cases.
More and faster charging stations will help but they are unlikely to ever reach the scope of gas stations as most commuter car charging will always be at home in the garage.
To make it really viable, we are going to need a leap forward in battery technology...I would guess somewhere on the order of twice the energy density of current lithium technology. This is technology, not just cramming more batteries in which would come with weight penalties that create new issues. If you get up around a 200mile range towing and less than an hour to recharge, now a 400mile travel day starts becoming viable without the need to recharge becoming the controlling factor. It would also allow weekend trips without having to muck about with fast charging at all.
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