JIMNLIN

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Myself and my family has camped since dads came home from WW II era.
We've always had rude people in campgrounds.
JMO its worse today for several reasons already mentioned. I've noticed campgrounds close to a large city are crowded to over crowded seems worse. Same for towns/city with a college or large university.
I see culture clash is another player. One culture wants to just party.....others want to relax and enjoy peace and quiet....others want to socialize....other want to enjoy loud boats/off road vehicles or loud music/etc.
Campgrounds just like the USA today have people with all kinds of anti attitudes that ignore rules and laws.
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BarabooBob

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I worked as security at a very popular resort in Wisconsin Dells. Extremely rude customers are not only found in campgrounds. We dealt with loud parties, smoking many substances and people threatening us with physical injury. Our advantage over most campgrounds was that we had cameras everywhere, over 600 cameras that we could bring up for the police.
We would ask people to obay the rules ONCE. After that, we would inform them that they had to leave. If they gave us a hard time about it, we walked away and they would taunt us with insults and say that we were weak for walking away. About 20 minutes later I would knock on the door ands they were escorted off the property by the police.
I hope that campgrounds would get similar help from the police if they had problems.
And yes, some people (usually drunks) would get physical when we asked them the first time to quiet down. They got to go to jail and their group got evicted. I am retired law enforcement and most of the other security officers were either retired or active duty cops. We had a great security force.
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way2roll wrote: RetiredRealtorRick wrote:
I particularly love the dog rule, especially as it applies to mixed breeds. Be sure to have your dog's DNA test results handy so you can prove its lineage ![wink [emoticon]](https://forums.motorhome.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/wink.gif)
How can you legally restrict certain breeds of dogs and mixed breeds? You either allow dogs or you don't. I get that dogs are considered property (except to people that own them) but it's pretty discriminatory. I don't have a dog in this fight (pardon the pun) but it's a weird clause.
Easy, it's a private business and they are looking at the risk profile (also their insurance may be the ones pushing it):
- Chihuahua gets lose and goes after a 10yr old...worst case is probably a nasty nip on the ankle and a band aide. (I'm sure someone will give an example of one chewing the face off a baby but statistically, serious injury with a liability claim is far less likely)
- Pitbull does the same thing and there is likely a hospital visit...possibly worse.
Then there is the perception issue:
- Chihuahua acts aggressive and it's annoying.
- Pitbull acts aggressive and people get scared.
Neither is good for campground business but scared is more likely to cause people not to revisit a campground.
Unfortunately, it's more the owners than the breed but while there are exceptions (have friends who run a pit bull rescue and their dogs are great), many people drawn to the big "aggressive" breeds tend to encourage (often unknowingly) the bad behavior.
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JIMNLIN wrote: Myself and my family has camped since dads came home from WW II era.
We've always had rude people in campgrounds.
JMO its worse today for several reasons already mentioned. I've noticed campgrounds close to a large city are crowded to over crowded seems worse. Same for towns/city with a college or large university.
I see culture clash is another player. One culture wants to just party.....others want to relax and enjoy peace and quiet....others want to socialize....other want to enjoy loud boats/off road vehicles or loud music/etc.
Campgrounds just like the USA today have people with all kinds of anti attitudes that ignore rules and laws.
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Cloud Dancer

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I have my mind made up on pitbulls. My mind. my conclusions. Their campground, their rules. However, I don't like their "rv over 10 years old rule".....
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cptqueeg

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I'll be going early and late in the seasons or dispersed to avoid cretins like Qamper. It's pretty much a free for all at peak periods.
It's not just city folks or the young that causes the problems by any means.
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