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ferndaleflyer

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Posted: 05/29/22 08:50pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The real whole story behind this is in a thread on dragraceresults.com and it connections to the Biden administration. Real long story.

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ferndaleflyer wrote:

The real whole story behind this is in a thread on dragraceresults.com and it connections to the Biden administration. Real long story.


Dragraceresults got the scoop before the WSJ, Financial Times, The Economist, etc, etc...

"Blackrock is the majority shareholder of Union Pacific railroad"

"Definition of majority
1a: a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total"

A simple google can verify that is not true. Throw some BS around and see what sticks.




"It appears Blackrock is spearheading the dismantling of the US system on behalf of the Globalists.

And the first domino they are pushing over is the energy sector. They are using DEF to get the party started. This is one sector of the biggest downfalls in political repercussions this country has ever faced…


haha the author(air quotes) pulled this out of his azz. do you actually believe it? or are you predisposed to that view point anyway so you don't really question it?

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Queen,
That has been my observation also. A bunch of 3rd rate news services are trying to blow this up into something and it appears the real news services are slow to bite. We don't have a diesel or def shortage. We have a distribution problem and we have known that for a long time.

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Well fellows I don't use Def and as long as someone sells it I will have diesel. I only pointed out another story.

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It's queeg, but any way. It's about 30 different industries that have been asked to curtail shipments so it's not just DEF and diesel that's affected. The railroads cut their workers(see article) and went to this system called "Precision Railroading" and it's just a total cluster.

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bgum wrote:

Queen,
That has been my observation also. A bunch of 3rd rate news services are trying to blow this up into something and it appears the real news services are slow to bite. We don't have a diesel or def shortage. We have a distribution problem and we have known that for a long time.


Then the Jimmy Haslam testimony to the surface transportation board meeting (that's not Congress). This is the same leadership of the same company that paid an 85 million dollar fine and an even larger settlement to customers it defrauded on fuel pricing 5 or more years ago?

Okay......

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Auto spellchecker is not necessarily a good idea.

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All the theories in this thread and not one mention of where the ASLEF, UTU, BLET, and a few others are mixed into the recipe? Not one thing happens without them having a say.

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thomasmnile wrote:


Then the Jimmy Haslam testimony to the surface transportation board meeting (that's not Congress). This is the same leadership of the same company that paid an 85 million dollar fine and an even larger settlement to customers it defrauded on fuel pricing 5 or more years ago?

Okay......


So Pilot is or was run/owned by crooks, they're just a customer of UP. While I may be happy that Pilot is getting the shaft from UP, I feel for Pilot's customers that are going to suffer.

Here is another article which mentions approximately 30 shippers involved so it's a LOT more than just Pilot affected.


U.S. fertilizer manufacturer CF Industries (CFI) is advising customers it serves, via Union Pacific rail lines, that railroad-mandated shipping reductions will result in nitrogen fertilizer shipment delays during spring planting season.

Union Pacific informed CFI, without advance notice, that it was mandating approximately 30 shippers, including CFI, to reduce the volume of private cars on its railroad effective immediately. CFI was told to reduce its shipments by nearly 20%.

Non-compliance, according to CFI, will result in the embargo of its facilities by Union Pacific. That means CFI will be unable to accept new rail sales involving Union Pacific customers for the foreseeable future.

CFI ships to customers via Union Pacific rail lines primarily from its Donaldsonville Complex in Louisiana and its Port Neal Complex in Iowa to serve key agricultural areas such as Iowa, Illinois, Kansas, Nebraska, Texas and California.Union Pacific informed CFI, without advance notice, that it was mandating approximately 30 shippers, including CFI, to reduce the volume of private cars on its railroad effective immediately. CFI was told to reduce its shipments by nearly 20%.



Michigan Farm News article

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Camper445 wrote:

All the theories in this thread and not one mention of where the ASLEF, UTU, BLET, and a few others are mixed into the recipe? Not one thing happens without them having a say.


Well now that you you've mentioned it please fill us in. I'm especially interested in how a British union plays into this mess.

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