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BarryG20

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Posted: 02/07/20 07:42pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Here are some sales figures from a mag HDT heavy duty trucking from last July issue that was reprinted in another magazine I get

This just for class 3,4,5 10001 lbs to 19500 lbs. ytd sales through the end of July 2019. What is below is fairly normal/representative of the numbers that I see quarterly

Brand. Ytd sales. Market share ytd
Chevy. 20271. 8.74%
Ram. 98343. 42.42%
Ford. 84268. 36.35
GMC. 8827. 3.81%


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Ford could take a much larger chunk of Class 6 in the near future with their new F600 product. It is basically a F550 with heavier springs and tires allowing it into the Class 6 market space. Yes, the F650 will lose sale, but the F600 should capture all of those and more !

I am still surprised that the new gas V8 is only 7.3L. The F750 does cross into the bottom of the Class 8 market, but that engine is just not "big enough" for that market. The "bottom end" of that engine is over-built (deep skirt block, 6 bolt mains, forged crank). I keep wonder if, at least on paper, there isn't a longer stroke version that would push it over 8L !

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Grit dog wrote:

If you can’t Dodge it RAM it baby!!!

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I would never buy ANY FCA vehicle, living here in the Rust Belt. All Fca vehicles have major electrical issues, especially grounds, after about 5 years in any snow environment, especially if they use salt on the roads.

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It really surprises me that Freightliner is so far ahead of Peterbilt/Kenworth. I guess they must be a whole lot cheaper to buy because I think I'd pay more for a used Kenworth than a new Frieghtliner.


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My brother and several other truck drivers I know do not like the narrow cabs the KW/Peterbuilt family uses.

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theoldwizard1 wrote:

Ford could take a much larger chunk of Class 6 in the near future with their new F600 product. It is basically a F550 with heavier springs and tires allowing it into the Class 6 market space. Yes, the F650 will lose sale, but the F600 should capture all of those and more !

I am still surprised that the new gas V8 is only 7.3L. The F750 does cross into the bottom of the Class 8 market, but that engine is just not "big enough" for that market. The "bottom end" of that engine is over-built (deep skirt block, 6 bolt mains, forged crank). I keep wonder if, at least on paper, there isn't a longer stroke version that would push it over 8L !


My thought on the 7.3 in the 700 series trucks, that will pretty much ONLY be in a school bus, local van delivery setup. I really doubt you will see too many try to tote a trailer that puts a SW rig already potentially at 35K lbs,bthen adding a 20k on axle trailer behind it.
Even if there is a longer sttok, bigger note version. Not sure it would could be profitable for buyer or Ford in this market.
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theoldwizard1 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

If you can’t Dodge it RAM it baby!!!

Ram 4evuh!!!!

I would never buy ANY FCA vehicle, living here in the Rust Belt. All Fca vehicles have major electrical issues, especially grounds, after about 5 years in any snow environment, especially if they use salt on the roads.


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ShinerBock wrote:

I found some interesting info in a recent meeting with one of our vendors. They make batteries for many brands such as Motorcraft, Interstate and so on, and are the largest automotive battery supplier in the world. We are working with them on a private label battery of our own for class 6-8 trucks.

Any-who, in their presentation they displayed this slide which is surprising to me. If you were to ask me who has the largest market share (by registration) in US class 3-5 trucks, I would have said Ford without hesitation. Seems I would be wrong.

For those who cannot see,
Dodge/Ram - 39.68%
Ford - 36.61%
Chevrolet - 10.45%
GMC - 4.42%
Chevrolet LCF - .68%

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FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

I found some interesting info in a recent meeting with one of our vendors. They make batteries for many brands such as Motorcraft, Interstate and so on, and are the largest automotive battery supplier in the world. We are working with them on a private label battery of our own for class 6-8 trucks.

Any-who, in their presentation they displayed this slide which is surprising to me. If you were to ask me who has the largest market share (by registration) in US class 3-5 trucks, I would have said Ford without hesitation. Seems I would be wrong.

For those who cannot see,
Dodge/Ram - 39.68%
Ford - 36.61%
Chevrolet - 10.45%
GMC - 4.42%
Chevrolet LCF - .68%

[image]


I knew it... I just knew it... It was just a matter of time although there's been hints and clues along the way.

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Posted: 02/18/20 10:28pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

theoldwizard1 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

If you can’t Dodge it RAM it baby!!!

Ram 4evuh!!!!

I would never buy ANY FCA vehicle, living here in the Rust Belt. All Fca vehicles have major electrical issues, especially grounds, after about 5 years in any snow environment, especially if they use salt on the roads.


No issues ever with our 2012 300c awd. All in Michigan.

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