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ShinerBock

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Posted: 12/05/19 11:45am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Grit dog wrote:

pianotuna wrote:

How many folks tow at 75 miles per hour? 55 would make more sense.


Me. (Depends what I'm towing and where)


Same here.

Although I thought we already had this convo before.

To summarize and generally speaking....

If you are in your 90s, towing over 25 mph is too fast.

If you are in your 80s, towing over 35 mph is too fast.

If you are in your 70s, towing over 45 mph is too fast.

If you are in your 60s, towing over 55 mph is too fast.

If you are in your 50s, towing over 65 mph is too fast.

If you are under 50,then you more than likely tow between 65 and 75 mph unless your are noob which in that case refer to the over 60 years old crowd.

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2. So you agree pure marketing BS.

Not at all. But if you think it would be an issue for you then you should do due diligence before purchase.

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Posted: 12/05/19 11:52am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Grit dog wrote:

pianotuna wrote:

How many folks tow at 75 miles per hour? 55 would make more sense.


Me. (Depends what I'm towing and where)


After enough miles of empty wide open road with no traffic in the high desert west, it starts to feel like you could step out of the truck and jog at 75 mph. I'll gladly pay a little fuel economy penalty to reduce travel time over a long distance.


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Posted: 12/05/19 11:59am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Guys I got this, we just need to stick a pole to the power line like in Back to the future. We never gonna run outta energy then.

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Posted: 12/05/19 12:08pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It’s not hype or bs or marketing or cult or smoke or mirrors...

Current production EV’s have too much power, not enough battery capacity, & too slow a recharge rate.

My Edsel F350 6.2 gasohol engine would have about 100 miles of range towing up a grade trying to keep up with a EV and a $120 to “recharge” it.

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Groover wrote:

A lot comes down to the type of towing you do. Granted, most people on this forum are expected to hitch up a camper and go cross country so range is very important. On the other hand, I tow a trailer most every day with my business but rarely travel more than 120 miles in a day and there are probably quite a few contractors that meet that description. The Tesla truck would probably work out very well for me. There are quite a few people that just want to run down to the building supply store and pick up some lumber. The Model Y towing a small trailer would work for that. The advance orders for the Semi are mostly from companies with defined runs less than 500 miles between facilities that they own and can put charging stations at. I think that we will see EV's towing trailers first in niche markets then expanding. It would also be nice for me to be able to leave home every day fully charged and not have to worry with getting my trailer through gas stations.

Meanwhile, Tesla keeps improving battery life and charging rates. This will make the EV as a tow vehicle more and more practical as time goes by.


Agree. My daughter owns a Tesla X and move around California and Nevada for her business.

99% of time she charges at home. You cannot anymore tell her to go back to ICE with the convenience and cool factor she is having with Tesla.

I ordered my Cybertruck to pull my travel trailer. If I can get 150 to 200 miles in between charging, I'll be ok with it as this is also my stops right now for gas, lunch and bathroom breaks. And think of the savings in gas and maintenance.

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Talking infrastructure . .

I DO NOT have a Tesla, but have driven with the coworker that does... IF towing a trailer, you would HAVE to unhook to re-charge..
The charging stations I have seen were located in the back or side of a store/hotel and are side by side. There would be no room to extend the cord enough to stay hooked up


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Break it down some. A trailer truck with 240 gal fuel tanks can travel 1200 miles before stopping to fuel. Hmm that is what 3 times farther than the pictured truck can go. and can be refueled in 15 minutes. This is very important. most time when you load, and go. You have a time limit to deliver your load. get there late. You lose money. You really don't have time to stop and charge batteries three times compared to not stopping with diesel in the same 1200 miles, and the farther you go the more you have to stop. This is a time killing option.

Normal tractors weight in the 25000 to 30000lb range. leaving a payload of 50,000lbs, and for them weight is money.
How much does the electric truck weigh? Well we aren't told. But I would tend to believe it weighs considerably more than a normal tractor. just for fun, say weighs 40K. You have just cut your payload 10000 to 15000lbs. You just lose money. And you got there late.


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Terryallan wrote:



Break it down some. A trailer truck with 240 gal fuel tanks can travel 1200 miles before stopping to fuel. Hmm that is what 3 times farther than the pictured truck can go. and can be refueled in 15 minutes. This is very important. most time when you load, and go. You have a time limit to deliver your load. get there late. You lose money. You really don't have time to stop and charge batteries three times compared to not stopping with diesel in the same 1200 miles, and the farther you go the more you have to stop. This is a time killing option.

Normal tractors weight in the 25000 to 30000lb range. leaving a payload of 50,000lbs, and for them weight is money.
How much does the electric truck weigh? Well we aren't told. But I would tend to believe it weighs considerably more than a normal tractor. just for fun, say weighs 40K. You have just cut your payload 10000 to 15000lbs. You just lose money. And you got there late.


The OTHER issue with the BIG RIG will be the NEW "ELD" Electronic Logging Device... The drivers have to factor inn the fact that they are "On Duty-Not driving" at each fill up.. They only have a certain amount of hours to work with.. Charging could eat into that pretty fast..

"This window is usually thought of as a “daily” limit even though it is not based on a 24-hour period. You are allowed a period of 14 consecutive hours in which to drive up to 11 hours after being off duty for 10 or more consecutive hours. The 14-consecutive-hour driving window begins when you start any kind of work."

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The OTHER issue with the BIG RIG will be the NEW "ELD" Electronic Logging Device... The drivers have to factor inn the fact that they are "On Duty-Not driving" at each fill up.. They only have a certain amount of hours to work with.. Charging could eat into that pretty fast..

"This window is usually thought of as a “daily” limit even though it is not based on a 24-hour period. You are allowed a period of 14 consecutive hours in which to drive up to 11 hours after being off duty for 10 or more consecutive hours. The 14-consecutive-hour driving window begins when you start any kind of work."
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I think you just answered a question that has been a minor puzzlement. In the last year or so why have truck parking spots become so hard to find. In rest areas and such. This device must be preventing their workarounds for skipping rest breaks.


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