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Posted: 12/05/19 08:30am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

He's probably 'calling out Tesla', because they have posted a video of Tesla vs F150. Where the Tesla out pulls the F150 going up hill in a tug of war scenario. However that has already been debunked by some other physicists who point out that the Tesla weighs much more than an empty F150. And that increases the frictional force that the tires can exert. And the tires to the road force is what matters pulling up hill.


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Posted: 12/05/19 08:38am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Funny part is, he is an actual Tesla owner and has made many pro-Tesla videos in the past. I guess he and the guys at TFL are right, the Tesla fanboys are fanatical and will go after you if you say anything that they perceive as a negative about Tesla regardless if it is true or not. Almost like a cult.

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I think it makes sense to have the power for electric vehicles embedded in the roadways to keep the batteries charged as the vehicles drive along the road... kind of like trolley busses.


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ShinerBock wrote:

Funny part is, he is an actual Tesla owner and has made many pro-Tesla videos in the past. I guess he and the guys at TFL are right, the Tesla fanboys are fanatical and will go after you if you say anything that they perceive as a negative about Tesla regardless if it is true or not. Almost like a cult.


Just, almost like a cult? LOL

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4x4ord wrote:

I think it makes sense to have the power for electric vehicles embedded in the roadways to keep the batteries charged as the vehicles drive along the road... kind of like trolley busses.


LOL how many millions of miles of roadway are there in the US? Aha! There are about 4,071,000 miles of road, changing all the time of course. And figuring a conservative $100,000 a mile to electrify that would be $4,000,000,000, that 4 Trillion bucks plus operating and maintenance costs. And that does not include all the dirt and gravel roads that we like so much out west.

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agesilaus wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

I think it makes sense to have the power for electric vehicles embedded in the roadways to keep the batteries charged as the vehicles drive along the road... kind of like trolley busses.


LOL how many millions of miles of roadway are there in the US? Aha! There are about 4,071,000 miles of road, changing all the time of course. And figuring a conservative $100,000 a mile to electrify that would be $4,000,000,000, that 4 Trillion bucks plus operating and maintenance costs. And that does not include all the dirt an gravel roads that we like so much out west.



Not to mention the fact that wireless charging is very inefficient and wastes a lot of energy. There is also the factor of voltage drop over long distances.

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A lot comes down to the type of towing you do. Granted, most people on this forum are expected to hitch up a camper and go cross country so range is very important. On the other hand, I tow a trailer most every day with my business but rarely travel more than 120 miles in a day and there are probably quite a few contractors that meet that description. The Tesla truck would probably work out very well for me. There are quite a few people that just want to run down to the building supply store and pick up some lumber. The Model Y towing a small trailer would work for that. The advance orders for the Semi are mostly from companies with defined runs less than 500 miles between facilities that they own and can put charging stations at. I think that we will see EV's towing trailers first in niche markets then expanding. It would also be nice for me to be able to leave home every day fully charged and not have to worry with getting my trailer through gas stations.

Meanwhile, Tesla keeps improving battery life and charging rates. This will make the EV as a tow vehicle more and more practical as time goes by.

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Fuel cell based EV is my guess, same old limiting component system...fuel storage and everything in that food chain....but that only one limiting factor

Laws of Physics does not care what type of vehicle...even a Tesla has to deal with them


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Was going to invest in both, but both dissapeared at about the same time...

Now seeing ads from one of the major oil OEM'S pitching next gen diesel from algae...

So ICE'S are not dead just yet...if ever...


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Posted: 12/05/19 09:54am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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[emoticon] who called out Tesla? Are you suggesting that Jason Fenske's analysis is flawed because it references Tesla?
Main title to the thread. So that is member ShinerBock that called out Tesla.
Not flawed at all. Just that it is an EV problem not a Tesla problem.

Same as calling out FORD because the DEF hurts performance and economy when ALL have the same issues.


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