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Posted: 10/21/19 05:56pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

et2 wrote:

California has a lot to worry about. But it won't be a insect that devastates it's economy.


Yup. If California collapses, it won't be because of a bark beetle. More likely it will be because they elected Governor Moonbeam twice.





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ksg, "probable cause" will get a warrant issued. The SC cases approving ag inspections don't need "probable cause" or a warrant. Its not a "search" but an "inspection." This is a PEST issue, not a criminal action...

taking the OP at his word...what kind of fruit and veggie inspection includes the under-chassis and roof of the RV? we've had Customs and Border Patrol checkpoints that didn't rise to that level.


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Airdaile wrote:

et2 wrote:

California has a lot to worry about. But it won't be a insect that devastates it's economy.


Yup. If California collapses, it won't be because of a bark beetle. More likely it will be because they elected Governor Moonbeam twice.

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If they asked permission that is a signal you have the right to say "No".

The checkpoints are becoming more frequent, not just agriculture, and they are reaching further and further north.

There is a point to be made by some of the many freedom fighters when they ask, "How far is this going to go?" When are my rights violated?

As for immigration checkpoints as far north as 120 miles, what's the purpose? If the job was done properly at the border, then there wouldn't be an issue about who is in the country legally. Does that mean the U.S. needs a border wall? Could be. Spend less overseas and protect the continent I say.

We're accustomed to waiting up to five hours to cross a border bridge, then a two-hour wait to inspect the rv, people who ask silly questions like, "How is it possible you were born in the U.S.?" And after inspecting the rig, "Do you have anyone hidden inside?" It's all to try and throw you off.

There are signs posted that say you can turn around if you want before getting into the checkpoint. Good luck with that. You'll have weapons and vehicles pointed at you before you make the U-turn and you won't get away from there any time soon.


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qtla9111 wrote:

If they asked permission that is a signal you have the right to say "No".

The checkpoints are becoming more frequent, not just agriculture, and they are reaching further and further north.

There is a point to be made by some of the many freedom fighters when they ask, "How far is this going to go?" When are my rights violated?

As for immigration checkpoints as far north as 120 miles, what's the purpose? If the job was done properly at the border, then there wouldn't be an issue about who is in the country legally. Does that mean the U.S. needs a border wall? Could be. Spend less overseas and protect the continent I say.

We're accustomed to waiting up to five hours to cross a border bridge, then a two-hour wait to inspect the rv, people who ask silly questions like, "How is it possible you were born in the U.S.?" And after inspecting the rig, "Do you have anyone hidden inside?" It's all to try and throw you off.

There are signs posted that say you can turn around if you want before getting into the checkpoint. Good luck with that. You'll have weapons and vehicles pointed at you before you make the U-turn and you won't get away from there any time soon.


What does any of this have to do with an agricultural inspection point?


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12 million illegal aliens and they're worried about fruit?

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rk911 wrote:

Lwiddis wrote:

ksg, "probable cause" will get a warrant issued. The SC cases approving ag inspections don't need "probable cause" or a warrant. Its not a "search" but an "inspection." This is a PEST issue, not a criminal action...

taking the OP at his word...what kind of fruit and veggie inspection includes the under-chassis and roof of the RV? we've had Customs and Border Patrol checkpoints that didn't rise to that level.


Could it be that bugs tend to "hang on" in those places???

They just found two oriental fruit flies in San Joaquin. If they find 6 of them, it could mean the area is under quarantine for 9 months.

Bugs are a major disaster waiting to happen.

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These are not the bark beetles you are looking for...

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toedtoes wrote:

rk911 wrote:

Lwiddis wrote:

ksg, "probable cause" will get a warrant issued. The SC cases approving ag inspections don't need "probable cause" or a warrant. Its not a "search" but an "inspection." This is a PEST issue, not a criminal action...

taking the OP at his word...what kind of fruit and veggie inspection includes the under-chassis and roof of the RV? we've had Customs and Border Patrol checkpoints that didn't rise to that level.


Could it be that bugs tend to "hang on" in those places???

They just found two oriental fruit flies in San Joaquin. If they find 6 of them, it could mean the area is under quarantine for 9 months.

Bugs are a major disaster waiting to happen.


ok, i'll buy that. but if bugs are a major disaster waiting to happen then why aren't the ag inspection stations operated 24/7? we've crossed into CA on I-40 twice in the last few years both times on a weekday during 'normal' working hours and both times the ag station was closed. just wonderin'. if it's a money thing (and it always is) then either CA doesn't know how to prioritize or the disaster they're trying to avert is mostly hype.

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Just for kicks, and I don't know if this is still done or not but a number of years ago while traveling the New cross-over at Hoover Dam, there was a check-point. Not border patrol or Ag inspection but one that required all RV's to stop and open up your compartments( can't recall if they also entered the RV)…. it was a no brainer but I suppose that if you refused, you would not be allowed to cross.


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