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Dex66

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I looking to buy a new truck I have a Ram 2500 now and looking into a 3500 SWR should I go with a long bed or short? The 5th wheel I looking at has a UVW of 13856 lb. and GVWR is 16340 lb. and hitch weight 2340 lb.I don't plan on pulling a lot I just want to be sure I have enough Truck so when I do pull it I am safe and not maxing out my truck. I am also looking at a Chevy 3500

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Go BIG! We wish we had on the first truck but didn't and hindsight is 20/20. Way, Way back we got a 3500 dually and haven't regretted it. Neither one of us have any problem with driving it. Sometimes we just have to park way out in a parking lot but walking is good for ya! No regrets this time around!


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14'V Nose Trailer Hauling 2014 Tri-glide Harley Davidson, recently added a 2016 Livin Lite 21RBS travel trailer. No Wood!No Rot!


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A new 3500 SRW is plenty big for the trailer you are looking at, and still room to grow in the future if needed.

I have a DRW, and if it wasn't a dedicated tow vehicle, I would be trading it in for SRW.

I'd say the same about long bed vs short. If you are full timing, and not using the truck much for daily duty, go long bed. If it is going to be a daily driver as well, short.


2012 RAM 3500 Laramie Longhorn DRW CC 4x4 Max Tow, Cummins HO, 60 gallon RDS aux fuel tank, Reese 18k Elite hitch
2003 Dodge Ram 3500 QC SB 4x4 Cummins HO NV5600 with Smarty JR, Jacobs EB (sold)
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An srw will be overloaded with that trailer, your hitch weight alone will be 3,000# plus. I towed a 14,000# gn shop trailer with one, not my choice, and it was a miserable experience.

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The 350/3500 SRW truck ratings have gone up so much the last few years some configurations have payload ratings now topping 4,000 lbs. You just need to make sure you pick the one that does have max or near max payload rating.
Most 5ers have contoured front caps now reducing, but not necessarily eliminating, the need for a sliding hitch in a short bed. But the short bed does require you to be a little more careful on tight back in turns if you don’t have a slider.
And no matter what the DRW fans say, a DRW is a pain for everyday driving when in small tight parking lots, tight drive thrus, etc. Yeah, you get used to it, but ......

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romore wrote:

An srw will be overloaded with that trailer, your hitch weight alone will be 3,000# plus. I towed a 14,000# gn shop trailer with one, not my choice, and it was a miserable experience.


Our weights loaded for fulling timing.
Front 5120
Rear 6620
Truck 11740
Trailer 12780
Combined 24520
Pin weight 2840
RGAWR 7000
Truck ready to tow 8,900.
Trailer GVWR 16000(loader heavy at 15620) Trailer is 39'4" and has a full high profile roof.
40 pounds over 11,700 GVWR of truck. Truck is licensed to 12K in Washington State.

The trick is to pick a 5th will with dry pin weight that is low. Pick one with a dry pin weight of 3K and it does not work.

Our Bighorn 3575el has dry pin of 2435. This combination made two round trips to Arizona and back to the NW. Tows great! Even in heavy wind.

Mopar pucks with Demco picture frame and B&W manual slider.

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Bet pin weight will be closer to 3k lb fully loaded.


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Longbed = no compromise!


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

Longbed = no compromise!


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Bionic Man wrote:

A new 3500 SRW is plenty big for the trailer you are looking at, and still room to grow in the future if needed.

I have a DRW, and if it wasn't a dedicated tow vehicle, I would be trading it in for SRW.

I'd say the same about long bed vs short. If you are full timing, and not using the truck much for daily duty, go long bed. If it is going to be a daily driver as well, short.


romore wrote:

An srw will be overloaded with that trailer, your hitch weight alone will be 3,000# plus. I towed a 14,000# gn shop trailer with one, not my choice, and it was a miserable experience.


Me Again wrote:


Our weights loaded for fulling timing.
Front 5120
Rear 6620
Truck 11740
Trailer 12780
Combined 24520
Pin weight 2840
RGAWR 7000
Truck ready to tow 8,900.
Trailer GVWR 16000(loader heavy at 15620) Trailer is 39'4" and has a full high profile roof.
40 pounds over 11,700 GVWR of truck. Truck is licensed to 12K in Washington State.

The trick is to pick a 5th will with dry pin weight that is low. Pick one with a dry pin weight of 3K and it does not work.

Our Bighorn 3575el has dry pin of 2435. This combination made two round trips to Arizona and back to the NW. Tows great! Even in heavy wind.

Mopar pucks with Demco picture frame and B&W manual slider.


I love it Yes, your can, plenty of capacity! NO you can't your will be overloaded!!

Well both could be correct at the 16,000# 5er range for a 350/3500 SRW.

Me_Again, managed to get a 5er with loaded pin of 2,840# or 18% of the 5ers GVWR. In many cases that will result in a fair amount of chucking. He is also 40# over GVWR, no big deal.

If he ran near 22% like many need to have a smooth ride, his pin would be 3,340#, now he would be 540# over GVWR. Seeing how most of that goes on the rear axle, he would also over his rear axle rating.

Yes it can be done with a 5er that will have a pin less than 20% loaded. Our 32' 12,500# scaled 5er has a pin of 2,700# which is just under 22%, with the 1,361# of passengers, pets and STUFF we carry, we would likely be over GVWR with a 350/3500 SRW.

DRW too BIG??? We daily drive ours, not too many places I don't take it, learn to back into parking spaces in lots.


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2016 Ram Laramie 3500 Aisin DRW 4X4 Long bed.
2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS, 32' GVWR 12,360#

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