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I was still working as a Firefighter when they forced the metric system on us here in Canada. We were given a 4 hour course on metrics. I went away on long weekend and came back to all the pump gauges reading in metric. Luckily one of the drivers scratched into the steel around the gauges, where it use to read 100 psi. So I got used to it but I rebel, even now that I've been retired for 16 years. My truck registers in miles and gallons and that's the way I talk(Imperial). I suppose you could say I'm bihandual......lol I'll have to go look at my GVWR on the door to see if I can stop getting an annual done on my dually which is for personal use only. Thanks for the update gitane59.


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gitane59 wrote:

As of July 1 2019 Ontario drivers of personal use pickup trucks with GVWR under 6500kgs are now exempt from the requirement to get the Annual Safety Inspection Yellow stickers.
Please note that at the bottom this proposal has been "approved"

For once I can say GOOD JOB to the Ontario government!

I will be printing this out and carrying it with me to educate any LEO as to the changes if stopped.
Ontario Safety Inspection Certificate Exemption


Thanks very much for posting this!

Not sure if I had anything to do with this but earlier this year I sent an email to our local MPP (who happens to be the speaker of the legislature) complaining about how us non-commercial pick up drivers are being hit with inspections and the need for emissions checks while car drivers don't need to. My MPP passed on the mail to the transport minister. Maybe politicians do listen to their constituents!





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I dislike any rules or regulations that treat one class of people differently than others.

This is one of those instances.

All of the trucks in my fleet need to be certified annually, as are every trailer. So now we have a situation where my (literally) next door neighbour can take his 15 year old F350 down the road with his 30 year old car trailer behind him with zero requirement that anyone periodically looks at it to ensure they have good brakes, wheel bearings that aren’t about to spew, lights that work, etc., etc, etc.

I on the other hand have to have my nearly new F350 and even just single SeaDoo trailer certified every year because it’s registered to my company not me personally.

This is IMHO completely the opposite of what makes sense. Commercial operators who need their vehicles on the road every day to earn their livelihood need to prove they maintain their vehicles, but privately owned trucks and trailers that might not move for months (or years) are good to go..

You want to drive down the highway next to a camper pulling out onto the road for the first time in 30 years (and on those 30 year old tires) knowing it’s tires, brakes and bearings haven’t been even looked at since before the first Gulf War?
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This is IMHO completely the opposite of what makes sense. Commercial operators who need their vehicles on the road every day to earn their livelihood need to prove they maintain their vehicles, but privately owned trucks and trailers that might not move for months (or years) are good to go..



I see it differently. Commercial truck's are more often than not are being driven by employee's earning a wage not the business owner and wage earning employees have less stake in sensing and reporting issues with company vehicles that would cost them wage hours of pay. I can say this as I drive a company vehicle in a fleet and see this affect everyday with me and my co-workers using our company vehicles.
Personally I travel across the continent with my truck and trailer which is worth a substantial percentage of my personal wealth and the financial and personal cost's of getting stranded in some tiny town in God know's where or having an accident due to lack of maintenance is the fear factor that ensures that you can trust that travelling beside me and may I suggest most RV'ers either towing or bobtailing is much safer than traveling beside many of the trucks on our highways today even with safety annual certificates given the miles commercial vehicle must cover to cover company cost's.


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gitane59 wrote:

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This is IMHO completely the opposite of what makes sense. Commercial operators who need their vehicles on the road every day to earn their livelihood need to prove they maintain their vehicles, but privately owned trucks and trailers that might not move for months (or years) are good to go..



I see it differently. Commercial truck's are more often than not are being driven by employee's earning a wage not the business owner and wage earning employees have less stake in sensing and reporting issues with company vehicles that would cost them wage hours of pay. I can say this as I drive a company vehicle in a fleet and see this affect everyday with me and my co-workers using our company vehicles.
Personally I travel across the continent with my truck and trailer which is worth a substantial percentage of my personal wealth and the financial and personal cost's of getting stranded in some tiny town in God know's where or having an accident due to lack of maintenance is the fear factor that ensures that you can trust that travelling beside me and may I suggest most RV'ers either towing or bobtailing is much safer than traveling beside many of the trucks on our highways today even with safety annual certificates given the miles commercial vehicle must cover to cover company cost's.


I have no doubt you are the kind of person who would maintain their equipment......

However.......

Someone is about to take THIS trailer down the road.

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I have no doubt you are the kind of person who would maintain their equipment......

However.......

Someone is about to take THIS trailer down the road.


Thank you, but I completely fail to see how anything about this link is relevant to the original subject. Recreational trailers have never been subject to annual vehicle safety inspections regardless of tow vehicle.

If you are suggesting that recreational trailers should be inspected then we must include boat trailers, snowmobile trailers, motorcycle trailers and the inspections would have to be required regardless of the vehicle towing them.
I hope you see how any discussion about recreational trailer safety inspections would be any entirely different subject matter.

I'm sorry that because you use your HD truck for business and commercial purposes as well as pleasure that the goofy Ontario reg's require you to have yellow stickers on your personal pleasure water craft trailer. It is a goofy interpretation of the yellow sticker law when you really think about it.

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gitane59 wrote:

JaxDad wrote:



I have no doubt you are the kind of person who would maintain their equipment......

However.......

Someone is about to take THIS trailer down the road.


Thank you, but I completely fail to see how anything about this link is relevant to the original subject. Recreational trailers have never been subject to annual vehicle safety inspections regardless of tow vehicle.

If you are suggesting that recreational trailers should be inspected then we must include boat trailers, snowmobile trailers, motorcycle trailers and the inspections would have to be required regardless of the vehicle towing them.
I hope you see how any discussion about recreational trailer safety inspections would be any entirely different subject matter.

I'm sorry that because you use your HD truck for business and commercial purposes as well as pleasure that the goofy Ontario reg's require you to have yellow stickers on your personal pleasure water craft trailer. It is a goofy interpretation of the yellow sticker law when you really think about it.


You nailed my point EXACTLY. Anyone who would pull that trailer down the road is obviously NOT the safety-oriented motorist that you and me are.

All trailers and tow vehicles should be inspected.

In Pennsylvania for example, all trailers over 3,000 pounds GVWR need to be certified annually, all motor vehicles need to be inspected prior to each years license renewal.

Otherwise let’s just go with the whole ‘2 sets of rules’ thing, nobody over 65 allowed to drive on 400 series highways, no RV’s allowed on highways during rush hours or holiday weekends, nobody can pull a trailer on the road until they pass a ‘trailer endorsement’ on their drivers license........ I could go on and on.

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Thank you for posting! I just had my inspection done in June but am looking forward to next year already!

gitane59 wrote:

As of July 1 2019 Ontario drivers of personal use pickup trucks with GVWR under 6500kgs are now exempt from the requirement to get the Annual Safety Inspection Yellow stickers.
Please note that at the bottom this proposal has been "approved"

For once I can say GOOD JOB to the Ontario government!

I will be printing this out and carrying it with me to educate any LEO as to the changes if stopped.
Ontario Safety Inspection Certificate Exemption



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You nailed my point EXACTLY. Anyone who would pull that trailer down the road is obviously NOT the safety-oriented motorist that you and me are.

All trailers and tow vehicles should be inspected.

In Pennsylvania for example, all trailers over 3,000 pounds GVWR need to be certified annually, all motor vehicles need to be inspected prior to each years license renewal.

Otherwise let’s just go with the whole ‘2 sets of rules’ thing, nobody over 65 allowed to drive on 400 series highways, no RV’s allowed on highways during rush hours or holiday weekends, nobody can pull a trailer on the road until they pass a ‘trailer endorsement’ on their drivers license........ I could go on and on.

While I fully support the idea of a trailer towing license endorsement it can't end there. There also must be a large motorhome license endorsement as well that is practical and enforceable. Your other pie in the sky suggestions are simply wacky. Rush hour is 24x7 in the GTA!

I would love to know how much lower the highway death rates, accident rates, injury rates, insurance claims costs' and insurance rates are in Pennsylvania than in jurisdiction without said annual safety inspections for all motor vehicles before commenting on your position of annual safety inspection's of all vehicles.
That's one of the goofy things about the yellow sticker law in Ontario. No one, commercial use or personal use has ever had to prove that they are in possession of a current Yellow safety sticker inspection to renew a required vehicles plate license registration. You must show proof of a current CVOR if required or declare the exemption from the CVOR before a commercial vehicle license registration can be renewed but not the Yellow sticker

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gitane59 wrote:

JaxDad wrote:



You nailed my point EXACTLY. Anyone who would pull that trailer down the road is obviously NOT the safety-oriented motorist that you and me are.

All trailers and tow vehicles should be inspected.

In Pennsylvania for example, all trailers over 3,000 pounds GVWR need to be certified annually, all motor vehicles need to be inspected prior to each years license renewal.

Otherwise let’s just go with the whole ‘2 sets of rules’ thing, nobody over 65 allowed to drive on 400 series highways, no RV’s allowed on highways during rush hours or holiday weekends, nobody can pull a trailer on the road until they pass a ‘trailer endorsement’ on their drivers license........ I could go on and on.

While I fully support the idea of a trailer towing license endorsement it can't end there. There also must be a large motorhome license endorsement as well that is practical and enforceable. Your other pie in the sky suggestions are simply wacky. Rush hour is 24x7 in the GTA!

I would love to know how much lower the highway death rates, accident rates, injury rates, insurance claims costs' and insurance rates are in Pennsylvania than in jurisdiction without said annual safety inspections for all motor vehicles before commenting on your position of annual safety inspection's of all vehicles.
That's one of the goofy things about the yellow sticker law in Ontario. No one, commercial use or personal use has ever had to prove that they are in possession of a current Yellow safety sticker inspection to renew a required vehicles plate license registration. You must show proof of a current CVOR if required or declare the exemption from the CVOR before a commercial vehicle license registration can be renewed but not the Yellow sticker


And this 'sticker BS' is EXACTLY why they've brought in this exemption.

There is a concept in law called "officially induced error" under which principle (despite the 'ignorance of the law is no excuse' principle) you cannot be found guilty of an offence if you were lead there due to the action, or inaction, of the government themselves in some way.

By allowing people to license a vehicle that was required to be inspected annnually, without even telling them they required that inspection, let alone insisting on it, they were creating the offence themselves.

Many, many traffic ticket fighting outfits got people off on this ticket because of this and it finally found it's way up the food chain until they finally corrected the situation.

Whacky indeed, I was trying to be in order to point out the unfair rules and regulations.

There's MANY more still on the books. Double towing in Ontario is one of them, probably near the top of the list IMHO. In Ontario you can legally tow two trailers behind one tow vehicle, BUT, only if the tow vehicle is a "commercial vehicle" (read pickup truck) and NOT if the driver has an AR drivers license.

So, if I had a little Ford Ranger I could legally two two trailers behind it, BUT, if I had an F450 and I have an AR license I cant.

Explain that logic.

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