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Posted: 07/24/19 12:28pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thinking back, I think I have only had two different hitches, a hi jacker and now a reese 16k. I think I liked the hi jacker better. It seemed better built and simpler. It had the bar that slid across the king pin locking it in place. The reese seems less sturdy and has two jaws that come around the king pin locking it in place. I tried the following. Close the jaws. No matter where the lever is, the lock towing, or the other two positions you can go to the back of the truck and open the jaws with a shovel handle, (I used). This just doesn't seem right. By the way this hitch came with the 5er from a pp sale. I no longer had the hi jacker. So I have no manual or experience with this hitch.
and the "lock positions" does that apply only to the sliding part and has nothing to do with the jaws?? Not to sure about this hitch although there are millions out there I'm sure.


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Posted: 07/24/19 02:17pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What did you expect to accomplish by pushing the jaws open with a shovel?

And how is that indicative of real-life performance of the hitch? (This coming from someone who's truck bed is extremely full when towing.)


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Posted: 07/24/19 02:32pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The sliding bar type hitch is very secure, but old technology. The two jaws that close on the pin is a very common style latch used on many hitches including the much liked B&W. But I have no idea how many of those can be opened with a shovel. Personally I like the wrap around jaw type that wraps fully around the pin and doesn’t have that opening behind the pin. I had a Pullrite Super 5th hitch in my previous truck and now a Reese Elite hitch in my current truck both having the wrap around jaw and geared to the pull handle. Just seems the most secure latch method to me.

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Posted: 07/24/19 03:25pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BB_TX wrote:

The sliding bar type hitch is very secure, but old technology. The two jaws that close on the pin is a very common style latch used on many hitches including the much liked B&W. But I have no idea how many of those can be opened with a shovel. Personally I like the wrap around jaw type that wraps fully around the pin and doesn’t have that opening behind the pin. I had a Pullrite Super 5th hitch in my previous truck and now a Reese Elite hitch in my current truck both having the wrap around jaw and geared to the pull handle. Just seems the most secure latch method to me.
I guess it's just me, I liked the old tech.I do have a small gap when the jaws close, they don't wrap around. I just can't imagine that system with a small gap is as secure as the solid bar going across.

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Rich&Mar wrote:

Thinking back, I think I have only had two different hitches, a hi jacker and now a reese 16k. I think I liked the hi jacker better. It seemed better built and simpler. It had the bar that slid across the king pin locking it in place. The reese seems less sturdy and has two jaws that come around the king pin locking it in place. I tried the following. Close the jaws. No matter where the lever is, the lock towing, or the other two positions you can go to the back of the truck and open the jaws with a shovel handle, (I used). This just doesn't seem right. By the way this hitch came with the 5er from a pp sale. I no longer had the hi jacker. So I have no manual or experience with this hitch.
and the "lock positions" does that apply only to the sliding part and has nothing to do with the jaws?? Not to sure about this hitch although there are millions out there I'm sure.


I bet if you look at the Reese 16k you’ll find the jaws pivot behind the opening. They open, as you found, when the king pin pushes into them. When you tow the pin is pulling back on the jaws wedging them closed. Pushing them ope with a shovel handle doesn’t tell you anything except you can push them open with a shovel. Did you try it with the arm pinned closed?


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Posted: 07/24/19 05:37pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

B&W cannot and will not open unless the handle is pulled back.


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Posted: 07/24/19 05:46pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sliding bar.......VERY SMALL contact area between King Pin and Bar.
High wear point at that contact point

Wrap around jaws 'spread' the contact area AROUND the King Pin
Better set up.


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Posted: 07/24/19 09:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Just as a point of reference. I have the Demco Hijacker Premier 16k hitch. The reason I bought it is because at has a wrap around Jaw AND a safety bar that slides across when hitched up. This to me is the most secure attachment I've been able to find. I did look at B&W due to all the good reviews, but settled on the Hijacker which had equally good reviews, and a double locking system.


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