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agesilaus

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I have a Champion 3500 digital inverter and to my way of thinking even if you have to replace it more often you can buy 4 Champions for the price of one Honda/Yamaha. They have a three year warranty. They have good tech support, you talk to a human in California and they send you to a semi-local repair shop. However then it bogs down, you can depend on them taking a month or more to fix it. I does get 17 hours on a tank of gas with economode. I doubt the H/Y gensets are any better.


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agesilaus wrote:

I have a Champion 3500 digital inverter and to my way of thinking even if you have to replace it more often you can buy 4 Champions for the price of one Honda/Yamaha. They have a three year warranty. They have good tech support, you talk to a human in California and they send you to a semi-local repair shop. However then it bogs down, you can depend on them taking a month or more to fix it. I does get 17 hours on a tank of gas with economode. I doubt the H/Y gensets are any better.

I don't think yamaha is even in the discussion. It seems every product they make is great with the exception of their generators. we we bought three yamaha 1000 generators 10 years ago for our fire department. nothing but junk. they take 5 minutes to warm up so you can run a 500 watt light off them. They also need to go in every other year for a tune up. The two honda eu 2000's . have been bullet proof running the 1500 watt lights.

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MFL wrote:

theoldwizard1 wrote:

At $399 from Home Depot from Home Depot the Champion #100478 seem to be "leading the pack" in the "bang for the buck" category.

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There maybe some cheaper ones out there, but Champion now has a reputation almost as good as Honda and Yamaha.


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This one is on sale at HD right now for $399. It is a much improved newer model 100565 than first one pictured. I agree the Champs are a good product, with great customer service, and parts supply!

Jerry


I am now considering returning my ryobi and buying two of these chqmpions. I am guessing i could sell my champion 3100 for $300 and br into this combo $600 with the parallel kit. Thqt would also give me a backup in the fish house in winter and more watts to run the tt AC

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And you can buy 2 1/2 Ryobi generators for nearly the price of one Honda.


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I am now considering returning my ryobi and buying two of these chqmpions. I am guessing i could sell my champion 3100 for $300 and br into this combo $600 with the parallel kit. Thqt would also give me a backup in the fish house in winter and more watts to run the tt AC


Not to discredit your Ryobi, but yes, I would rather have the 100565 Champion, which I did buy on a special purchase, just before Christmas. This is a new model, and the parallel kit for it was supposed to be available in January.

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There are 5 campers in our group that regularly camps/fishes together. Three of them went with Champions, one went with dual 2000 inverter (older stackable style), while the other two went with the 3500/4000. The two 2000s wouldn't run his air conditioner, which surprised me. I loved that they were stackable, and was considering buying them just for that.
Now they are all using the Harbor Freight Predators.

Two of us are still using our 2000 Hondas, and all told we have probably spent less on generators than they have. This is over the course of ten years, but one of the EU2000s has lost a lot of compression, but it easily has over 5,000 hours on it.
There are several things I like about the Predators, and I hope they last as well as they look.

Side story, two years ago I bought some cheap hour meters and we put them on our Hondas, and we were shocked how quickly the hours add up, and how we weren't changing the oil nearly enough. The 2000 with low compression has over 1000 hours on the hour meter.


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Remember that two in parallel is not twice one for power.

My P2200 Briggs and Stratton manual has a table for that:

Two P2200s (1700w running each)= 3000w in parallel (not 3400)
P2200 & P3000 = 3000w
P3000 & P3000 = 4800w

I don't know, but guess that has something to do with the parallel kit receptacles.


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I noticed in questions, on Champion site, that you can parallel a Champion 3100 with the 2K Champion 100565, which would be 2800+1600=I'm guessing at least 4K.

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MFL wrote:

I noticed in questions, on Champion site, that you can parallel a Champion 3100 with the 2K Champion 100565, which would be 2800+1600=I'm guessing at least 4K.

Jerry


Need to check that. If the parallel kit is limited to the smaller gen's specs, then you might get 3000 instead of 4000.

I am guessing the kit is different for two big ones. Perhaps there is info on that somewhere in the Champion site.

Not clear what this will do:
https://www.championpowerequipment.com/parallel-kit-selector/

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