All electric vehicles?

[Jayco-noslide]

I guess electrically powered vehicles are coming but seems to me they are presently only a rich person's toy with present technology. By that I mean, they're only good for around town and short trips and they cost A LOT. So another conventional vehicle is required for real traveling. We only have 1 car (Ford Focus) plus a 30 ft. MH. I also calculated that Chevy's plug-in cost so much that a car like my Focus cost so much less, the difference would buy gas for 7 years. I'm not including hybrids which sort of make sense even though I don't personally like them. I don't see batteries in sight that would enable real travel but maybe there's some secret technology? Apparently Ford is all in for electric. Good luck with that.

[fj12ryder]

Bedlam wrote:
I wonder if this idea will morph into an RV?

https://www.geek.com/tech/watch-is-this-robotic-hotel-room-on-wheels-the-future-of-travel-1763449/

Sure looks like it. Due to arrive the day after you get your own personal flying car. 🙂

[Bedlam]

I wonder if this idea will morph into an RV?

https://www.geek.com/tech/watch-is-this-robotic-hotel-room-on-wheels-the-future-of-travel-1763449/

[pianotuna]

All electric van :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMeqMmERtL0&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0My5PJismDadCC-tuS6_8Cmhl4iR...

[pianotuna]

Hi,

There is road tax on propane and natural gas at regular gas stations where I live. It annoys me as I have a fixed tank--but not enough to go to the propane company.

stevemorris wrote:
just wait till they start putting fuel/road taxes on the electric cars
same with propane and natural gas
viable fuels sure, but the prices are artificially low because of lower taxes on them

[stevemorris]

just wait till they start putting fuel/road taxes on the electric cars
same with propane and natural gas
viable fuels sure, but the prices are artificially low because of lower taxes on them

[NJRVer]

pianotuna wrote:
Electric is going in other places, too!

https://electrek.co/2019/01/29/caterpillar-electric-excavator-giant-battery-pack/?fbclid=IwAR3mLpDzq...

The Tesla semi may be closer than a lot of people think.

www.rhinotimes.com/news/dont-tell-anyone-but-electric-buses-will-be-here-next-week/

[Bedlam]

The separated carbon from the fuel burn reacts with the oxygen in the air resulting in about 20 lbs of CO2 per gallon of gasoline.

[time2roll]

I believe Octane is C8-H18

Molecular mass of C = 12, H = 1, O = 16, Octane 114

Carbon mass is 84.2% so 9 tons = 7.58 tons carbon.

Then you need twice the Oxygen but it weighs 16 so about 20 tons of Oxygen.

Yea I come up with only 28 tons. I assume gasoline is made up of not pure octane but also contains some heavier carbons that get you to the 30 tons CO2.

Was anyone awake in chemistry?

[tommyznr]

mich800 wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

Jayco-noslide wrote:
Back to that post about an EV superior to the new Corolla. Lets compare costs. The Corolla around $20 to 22 K, maybe 17 or less for a nice used one in a couple of years. I paid 17 for my Focus last April. Any EV I know about; starting close to 30K and much more for some. The $8000 price difference would buy around 3000 gallons or 90000 miles in the Corolla. And I could jump in it and drive cross country with no worry about range. And I bet the exhaust is pretty darn clean.

Today's cars have pretty clean exhausts when it comes to toxic emissions but I think the point is burning 3000 gallons of gas puts 30 tons of CO2 into the atmosphere.

It's the dinosaurs revenge for man killing them and creating the ice age.

How do you turn 9 tons of gasoline into 30 tons of CO2?

[pianotuna]

Know anyone who drives a gasoline powered car and gets 80 MPG?

https://blog.ucsusa.org/dave-reichmuth/new-data-show-electric-vehicles-continue-to-get-cleaner

[wilber1]

Ferries Too.

[pianotuna]

Electric is going in other places, too!

https://electrek.co/2019/01/29/caterpillar-electric-excavator-giant-battery-pack/?fbclid=IwAR3mLpDzq...

[wilber1]

philh wrote:

wilber1 wrote:
burning 3000 gallons of gas puts 30 tons of CO2 into the atmosphere.

Why do you hate plants?

I don't but you can have too much of anything. If the atmosphere was pure O2, the planet would be a fireball. Remember Apollo 1?

Besides, at the rate we are deforesting the planet, a CO2 shortage will never be a problem.

[philh]

wilber1 wrote:
burning 3000 gallons of gas puts 30 tons of CO2 into the atmosphere.

Why do you hate plants?