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Posted: 09/22/18 06:10pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would think twice before getting an electric fridge if dry camping more than just occasionally. Speaking from personal experience, generator use is restricted in many campgrounds to only a few hours a day (some only allow 2 hour periods at a time). And in some places they are not allowed at all. And let's face it, even the most quiet built-in generator can be annoying.





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Posted: 09/22/18 06:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Tiffen says "a residential frig will need the Jenny run once a day with six six volt batteries". I personally don't want a residential frig, more batteries to replace and wear and tear on the Jenny.
Tiffin offers the option of an RV refrig, adding the propane at build time.
People seem to exaggerate the time they run without recharging the batteries to justify their purchase of the residential frig. I will take the manufacturers word before anyone on this forum.


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“Some of you have way too much time on your hands. I'm beginning to remember why I took the 10 year break from this site.” Welcome back. Sorry that it bothers you that I usually look at previous posts before trying to answer someone’s question.

I put off going residential because of posts like this “We could never have a residential refrigerator because 50% of our trips is dry camping“. We usually dry camp 5 out of 7 days in the summer....71% of the time. As I posted above,36+ hours on two batteries which is longer than the house batteries will last.

My generator time has actually decreased after going residential BUT I added another 100A charger. 1.5 hours generator in the evening and 1/2 hour in the morning is all I need. Without a doubt, going residential is my best DIY project...helps that the NiCold was that bad.


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Ivylog wrote:

“Some of you have way too much time on your hands. I'm beginning to remember why I took the 10 year break from this site.” Welcome back. Sorry that it bothers you... ..
When you don't use the quote feature we have to go looking for this person.

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Here is good discussion on the subject. There are many, many dry camping folks and with the new addition of a residential refrigerator the problems have been solved.

http://www.rvnetwork.com/topic/121644-bo........docking-with-a-residential-refrigerator/


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For those that imply we exaggerate our battery life with a residential fridge, it's easy enough to look up the power consumption of the commonly used models and do your own calculations. I expect the larger double door fridges use a bit more power than my smaller 10.1 cu ft, but modern fridges are actually quite cost efficient. Keep in mind that residential fridges typically cycle significantly less than RV absorption fridges, and I'm reasonably sure most boondockers typically conserve power overall, using less per day than they would on shorepower. Three 12-volt or six 6-volt batteries are not uncommon in larger RV's these days.


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So for those of yuo who seem perplexed at my question, since I previously posted about delivery times etc. If you must know, we ordered the RV back in July. But at some point we were notified that the "non residential" fridge option that we chose, may effect the delivery time. So we began questioning whether it was all that important. It was a $2600 option, but we saved that much when we decided to forego the forward bunk.
Our current RV, due for trade, is a 32' class C. I have 400W of solar on the roof feeding a Blue Sky charger and about 250Ah of AGM batteries. It feeds a 1500W pure sine wave inverter which ties into one of the two 15A circuits in the RV. I do have a 4Kw genny on board but rarely use it. Truth is, I sort of despise generator use. With my current setup I can run everything, including the coffee maker, but obviously not the A/C.
Therefore, I wanted to ask those who do some dry camping/boon docking with a residential fridge, what their experiences were.
We glamp in state and federal campgrounds about 70% of the time. So this was not just a passing issue for me. Winnebago adds an additional 2 (for a total of 4) group 31 Napa commercial grade batteries when you opt for the residential fridge. These batteries however are not true deep cycle in my book, they still have a CCA rating. So I would not be comfortable draining them past 50%.
In the end, we decided the wait and expense was worth it, and did not want to regret a decision down the line. Especially since we were ordering new. I don't think there is a right or wrong decision and do not mean to diminish the reasons some folks opt for the residential. But I did want to hear your experiences. That's all, no hidden agenda. Thanks for your responses!

* This post was edited 09/24/18 08:20am by steved28 *


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Sounds like you already made your decision to go with the dual unit and that's fine they work ok. Personally I'll never go back to the RV refers. Had them in past campers and I had one in the present unit. I swapped it out for a residential unit and after using it for a few years now will never go back to the RV style. We dry camp, take trips on the road for a few days at a time, and have never had an issue. I actually think the RV unit drew down the batteries more. I have 4 batteries for the coach and a decent inverter, they all came with the coach so a swap didn't take more than pulling out the old and installing the residential unit and plugging it in. I've left it sit for 3 to 4 days with no hook-up and it barely phased the batts (I had moved it so friends could use our parking spot and forgot to plug it in). I'm done dealing with the dual RV units, I always had to plan and worry about the RV unit. The residential unit we start in April when I unwinterize it and don't shut it off until I close it up in Nov and never had any issues. Best mod I ever did. Residential all them way for us,but everyone has different opinions and circumstances.


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2gypsies wrote:

Here is good discussion on the subject. There are many, many dry camping folks and with the new addition of a residential refrigerator the problems have been solved.

http://www.rvnetwork.com/topic/121644-bo........docking-with-a-residential-refrigerator/


I didn't really read were they solved the issue, apart from shutting down the fridge at night or running the genny a few hours during the day. These are both scenarios I would like to avoid.

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neilnbe wrote:

Sounds like you already made your decision to go with the dual unit and that's fine they work ok. Personally I'll never go back to the RV refers. Had them in past campers and I had one in the present unit...


Can I ask what the issue was you had with them? I have only owned 2 in the past 15 years. Never had a single issue with them. But I do clean them out every Spring.

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