Sep-20-2018 05:53 PM
Sep-24-2018 04:14 PM
spoon059 wrote:Walaby wrote:
All dealers, car dealers or RV dealers, boat dealers etc don't really discuss doc fees etc until you sit down and start talking details. At least that's been my experience.
When Im standing outside talking to the car salesman, he's not telling me 'hey.. we charge 499 doc fee and 2000 delivery charge!
so, don't get upset about it. Negotiate a bottom line price, and tell 'em they can list as big a doc fee as they want.. but you're only paying "x"
Mike
When I am negotiating a price, its out the door. I'm not getting hit with any surprises when I hit the finance managers office. If your salesman won't give you that price, you need a new salesman.
Sep-24-2018 04:00 PM
Walaby wrote:
All dealers, car dealers or RV dealers, boat dealers etc don't really discuss doc fees etc until you sit down and start talking details. At least that's been my experience.
When Im standing outside talking to the car salesman, he's not telling me 'hey.. we charge 499 doc fee and 2000 delivery charge!
so, don't get upset about it. Negotiate a bottom line price, and tell 'em they can list as big a doc fee as they want.. but you're only paying "x"
Mike
Sep-24-2018 11:14 AM
Sep-24-2018 07:52 AM
Sep-23-2018 01:25 PM
Sep-23-2018 12:59 PM
BeerBrewer wrote:
Look my issue has nothing to do with them charging for delivery or for prep fees. My issue is that they didn't disclose it until we sat down to discuss the details. I'm sure that they were hoping that we'd get caught up in the moment and buy it anyway.
Sep-23-2018 12:48 PM
Sep-23-2018 11:12 AM
Sep-23-2018 09:13 AM
SoundGuy wrote:
The real mystery is why any of this, especially the last statement, should be a surprise to anyone with half a brain. :S Plain & simple, dealers are in business to turn a profit and that profit comes from one source - your consumer pocket.
Sep-23-2018 09:02 AM
Lynnmor wrote:Ron3rd wrote:
Depends on where you live. In California the delivery fee is a legitimate expense the dealer must pay to get the trailers out here from Indiana, where most come from. You also pay a delivery fee when you buy are car in most cases, ie, "transportation fee". We're talking about 2,000 miles or so with a hot shot carrier.
American made cars have standardized delivery fees, no matter if you are next door to the plant or at the other end of the country, the price is the same.
Sep-23-2018 07:49 AM
DownTheAvenue wrote:BeerBrewer wrote:
For instance we saw a trailer with a MSRP of $30,500 selling for about $24,000, plus almost $2000 for delivery, dealer prep.....Frankly it really really rubs me the wrong way, almost feels like a "scam".
Then you haven't bought a new vehicle in 40 years! Every vehicle will have a delivery charge added on the window sticker. almost every dealer (there are a few exceptions) charge a "documentation fee".
Sep-23-2018 04:51 AM
Ralph Cramden wrote:
Getting worked up because they have $300 listed as a doc fee on a separate line somewhere is senseless just the same as getting all pumped up because a dealer says no doc fee and does not list it. You're still the one paying it because nobody is doing it gratis.
Sep-23-2018 04:24 AM
Jay Coe wrote:Ralph Cramden wrote:Ron3rd wrote:Jay Coe wrote:
Doc fee is BS also. That's part of the dealer's cost of doing business like heat, electric and insurance on his building. Title and registration are the only legitimate documentation fees for a buyer.
I agree doc fee is BS.
At a lot of dealerships the person doing the finance and registration work is essentially a contractor and is paid by the number of transactions. That amount is included in the doc fee over and above the actual fees related to financing and gubmint. B&M till your head explodes but if a dealer has no separate line item shown as a doc fee you're still paying it just the same. I can guarantee no dealer anywhere is footing the bill for doc fees or anything else, the buyer is.
Well of course they are. Just like their utilities, insurance and the wage they pay the janitor. What I'm saying is they need to cover these expenses with the profits they earn, not tag it on to a sale. Those profits are the TOTAL the dealership makes off all their business, not just sales of units. Service, parts, whatever makes them money needs to cover that "business expense". It's overhead.
Sep-22-2018 11:54 AM