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thomas201 wrote:
Now has anyone tried towing right at max, under the new J2807 spec? How do the newer trucks perform against the spec?
โSep-15-2018 05:11 PM
โSep-15-2018 05:09 PM
dpgllg wrote:
With my 1st 5th wheel the dealer told me that I could tow it with my 1/2 ton Chevy Gasser. I towed it once and when we came home I told my wife we either sell the 5th wheel or get a bigger truck.
It did tow it BUT I had to be aware of hills and get sort of a run at them and the stopping factor was not good either. I was white knuckled the whole time and not a pleasant experience.
I upgraded to a 2500HD Gasser and it was like the trailer was not even back there.
I have since upgraded to a 2500HD Diesel and also my 5th wheel which is heavier. It has three slides where the old one had only one. Same length at 31 foot. The diesel handles it BUT when it comes time to upgrade I'll be looking at a 3500 or F350 for sure.
The daily driver is not an issue for me as I have always enjoyed driving a truck over a car although there are times such as WalMart I wish I had a shorter bed than the 8ft back there but I get by.
I wish you luck in finding the right solution for you!
Dave
โSep-15-2018 06:47 AM
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โSep-15-2018 03:44 AM
RobWNY wrote:
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the half ton truck towing a 5th wheel. Even with the Aluminum body F150 with 2,019 of payload. Most 1/2 tons have several hundred fewer pounds of available payload because of the steel body. So, using 2,019 pounds of payload as an example, subtract 200 pounds for the hitch, that leaves 1,819. Now subtract your weight and a spouses weight. Lets say that's 350 pounds. Now you're down to 1,469. Now subtract 60 pounds for 25 gallons of gas and you're at 1,409. Now subtract the weight of propane tanks, batteries and camping stuff in the 5th wheel. Most people guestimate they put 700-1,000 pounds in their campers. Lets say the Propane, batteries and gear adds 400 pounds to the pin weight. That leaves 1,009 pounds to work with. Now maybe you have a spray in bed liner or a fold up tonneau cover or a dog and you throw a few camping chairs in the back seat or a few other things. Lets say that all adds up to 150 pounds. Now you're at 859 pounds left before going over available payload. How many 5th wheel campers being sold today have a 859 pound or less dry pin weight? There might be a few very small 5th wheels but the vast majority aren't anywhere near a dry pin weight of 859 pounds. Now imagine it's not a F150 with aluminum body and the available payload is 1,590 pounds like it was when I owned a 2015 F150 with Ecoboost. No way I could tow a 5th wheel and be within specs. I have a sticker on my new Salem Hemisphere that has all the buzz words and stickers. Half ton towable, Ultralight, etc. I tow it with a one ton Ram with 3,900 pounds of available payload. Yes it's more truck than I need but I don't worry about whether I can throw a camp chair in the back seat either.
โSep-14-2018 02:25 PM
RobWNY wrote:
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the half ton truck towing a 5th wheel. Even with the Aluminum body F150 with 2,019 of payload. Most 1/2 tons have several hundred fewer pounds of available payload because of the steel body. So, using 2,019 pounds of payload as an example, subtract 200 pounds for the hitch, that leaves 1,819. Now subtract your weight and a spouses weight. Lets say that's 350 pounds. Now you're down to 1,469. Now subtract 60 pounds for 25 gallons of gas and you're at 1,409. Now subtract the weight of propane tanks, batteries and camping stuff in the 5th wheel. Most people guestimate they put 700-1,000 pounds in their campers. Lets say the Propane, batteries and gear adds 400 pounds to the pin weight. That leaves 1,009 pounds to work with. Now maybe you have a spray in bed liner or a fold up tonneau cover or a dog and you throw a few camping chairs in the back seat or a few other things. Lets say that all adds up to 150 pounds. Now you're at 859 pounds left before going over available payload. How many 5th wheel campers being sold today have a 859 pound or less dry pin weight? There might be a few very small 5th wheels but the vast majority aren't anywhere near a dry pin weight of 859 pounds. Now imagine it's not a F150 with aluminum body and the available payload is 1,590 pounds like it was when I owned a 2015 F150 with Ecoboost. No way I could tow a 5th wheel and be within specs. I have a sticker on my new Salem Hemisphere that has all the buzz words and stickers. Half ton towable, Ultralight, etc. I tow it with a one ton Ram with 3,900 pounds of available payload. Yes it's more truck than I need but I don't worry about whether I can throw a camp chair in the back seat either.
โSep-14-2018 01:12 PM
โSep-14-2018 12:27 PM
troubledwaters wrote:gbopp wrote:Actually some do. When a truck is also used as a Daily Driver (DD) and only used 10% ยฑ as a Tow Vehicle, a 1/2 ton can make sense. A 3/4 ton can make a terrible DD for many reasons, and if its a diesel it can be even worse. So if a 1/2 ton can be used within it's ratings as a Tow Vehicle, it's a win - win when also used as a DD.
You never see someone complaining because they have too much truck.
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