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Chevy 1500 express Remove front bumper/bolt tow bar to frame

or does blue OX attach to under the bumper to frame w/ bumper still on van?

I like this http://www.hitchsource.com/blue-ox-aventa-lx-10000-lb-tow-bar-p-33296.html?pn=8554529724&cn=Shopping_-_Tow_Bars_BlueOx&ag=Blue_Ox_Tow_Bars&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhfPvt63S2AIVxLXACh3jLgiKEAQYAiABEgKPoPD_BwE I’ve sean midsized cars towing vehicals w/ a adjustable (width) tow bar bolted directly
To towed vehicles frame what is this tow bar referred to and can I rent one from U haul?

I have a 02 Chevy 1500 5.7 vortec it’s weight 7100LBs and want/like to tow a 03 Chevy 1500 it’s weight 8500LBs from Virgina to N.Florida. around 800 miles. Yes I know the 03 is exceeding the 02s tow capisty by 2.1K LBs.

What I do know so far about towing a 1500.
1.it’s wheelbase width is like just under 79” so a conventionale Uhaull tow dolly is to small (could fit w/small dounut spare wheel). However I have read about wider jumbo tow dollys unknown where to rent.

2.a flatbed trailer would probablley increase the overall tow load by another 3K LBs. now far exceeding the tow capcity of the 02.

3.for a long 800mile trip must the drive shaft be removed from the 03?

I could arrange transport but the pickup place has deadlines for pickups an seam strike.
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Check the laws. In many states the towed vehicle must not exceed 40% of the towing vehicle's GVW. Note that usually that is a TOWING law, not a TRAILER law.
IMO, what you propose is unsafe; Towing an 8500 lb. vehicle with a 7100 lb. vehicle is a recipe for disaster, regardless of the towing capacity of the 7100 lb. vehicle. My advice: DON'T DO IT!
A trailer obviously just makes the loading worse. I don't see that as a viable option, either.
Yes, if the vehicle to be towed is not four wheel drive, with a Neutral position on the transfer case shift, the driveshaft must be removed to avoid transmission damage due to lack of lubrication.


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Your project has a number of safety concerns. Towed outweighing towing is one of the big ones. There's a lot of debate about towed vehicle braking, but your case looks like one where you'd better do something. Easiest thing would be to find somebody willing to loan/rent you a brake-in-a-box like Brake Buddy.

Rental towbars were used in the days that vehicles had bumpers, not mere plastic trim over foam and sheet metal.

Blue Ox towbars, at least most of them, are meant to connect to a permanently attached Base Plate. They may offer a simple A-Frame to bolt to vehicles like Jeeps and others that have real bumpers or aftermarket bumpers that tie back into the FRAME of the vehicle.

I haven't found a simple bolt-on A-frame towbar with a rating of more than 5000

The Base Plate I mentioned above, secures to the towed's chassis in several places, not just a couple bolt holes, and usually includes backup hardware for inside the chassis. I mention that because a chassis isn't that massive anymore. By that I mean in the last several decades. It's a weldment of relatively thin steel so the towing, turning, and stopping forces need to be distributed.

If the towed is a 2wd with automatic transmission, I'm all but certain the driveshaft has to come out. Pretty much none of those are towable four-down.

I'm sure "People do it all the time" and mostly get away with it. But it scares me.

If the towed is a 2wd with automatic transmission, I'm all but certain the driveshaft has to come out. Pretty much none of those are towable four-down.


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load it on a car trailer and off you go.

First I think your weights are off. My 04 chevy 2500 doesn't weigh 8500 lbs. I think you will be right at the limit of the 02 1500 but doable.

Almost every trailer I have ever towed weighed more than tow vehicle until I purchased a DP. Last FW was @16,000 lbs. towed by an @6,000 lbs. truck. I towed an @9,000 lb FW with an 01 chevy 1500 and it did just fine.

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A Chevy 1500 is going to be more around 6000 lbs. There is concern about the driveshaft and if the tranny is spinning in neutral will it be lubricated? Better find that out or just remove it. I think it would be an easy tow but I would try to get a friends aux brake. Stopping would be fun (sarcasm) with that much weight pushing you. And without any tongue weight, might push the van real easy.

In the states that have instant access to the Mexican border, you see long lines of towed cars and trucks with tow bars taking them south to be used/resold/parted. They are quite the setup and do not have brakes. Seem to do just fine from what I have seen.

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