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Posted: 01/09/18 11:35am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

janstey58 wrote:

rgatijnet1 wrote:

Even the newer gas powered RV's are quieter than they were a few years ago.


Maybe you haven't driven a new Ford gasser with V10 up a hill, they are **** noisy!!


You are probably right. My GM/Allison powered gasser just chugs up the hill and I can still hear my wife complaining about something. [emoticon]

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janstey58 wrote:

rgatijnet1 wrote:

Even the newer gas powered RV's are quieter than they were a few years ago.


Maybe you haven't driven a new Ford gasser with V10 up a hill, they are **** noisy!!


You are probably right. My GM/Allison powered gasser just chugs up the hill and I can still hear my wife complaining about something. [emoticon]


Lol

My old neighbors had a Trail Lite Class A with that combination, used it to tow their race car in a 22' enclosed trailer, and loved it.


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I think many of you are regurgitating old news about diesel engine noise. I would rather sit atop a modern diesel in a Class A than a screaming Ford going up a hill. I know they've made the Ford's quieter, but so are the diesels. A little more insulation would make it just a hum under load.


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Maybe you are correct
But the perception exists,
And mfg are not building lots of F.R.E.D.S


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Posted: 01/09/18 12:57pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

LOL rgatijnet1 !!!


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Price, Weight, Complexity. The new Diesels are a nitemare to work on with all the emission equipment. I couldn't imagine one in a MH. If they were to offer say a Ford 6.7 in an A, with the required upgraded transmission, and all packaging complexity (turbo location, intercooler, etc) I could easily see a 20K up charge. Don't see the market when most spending that amount will go to a DP.

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The manufacturers don't give a rats about noise. It's the availability of the chassis that dictates the outcome.


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The FREDs did not sell well. I'm a fan of Diesel engines in vehicles that need the extra HP/Torque but they are more expensive. If a gas engine will give close to similar diesel performance most will not spend the extra money, especially in a vehicle that does not get a lot of miles. You get a lot more than a Diesel engine in a DP.

For those that want to say a gas PU has the same performance as a diesel PU, you might want to drive both before you go out on that limb.


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GWolfe wrote:

Been looking at Class As lately, more out of curiosity than anything. Why don't manufacturers offer more diesels in the front engine chassis? Seems like it would be a win/win other than price but at the price the manufacturers ask for some of these another $10k would be a drop in the hat.

I don't know much about the chassis suppliers but I'm guessing the chassis aren't built by Ford/GM/ or Ram and maybe that has something to do with it.

Anyway just my winter wonderin going on, thanks.

Yep, noisy and more so than gas.
Also, they all seem underpowered and with a smaller block size.
I once thought that the WH UFO chassis would be the norm and whereas one could have a gasoline powered pusher. Not many left from this era and for whatever reason, it never caught on with the rest.


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And, maybe, it's because they didn't sell many FRED's? They build what sells.

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