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Tom/Barb

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bobkatmsu wrote:

Ductape wrote:

In that price range, be careful and have financial contingency plans for repair costs. Diesel repairs are (more) expensive.

It really all hinges in condition more than what type of engine. Better a quality gas coach than a bargain brand diesel.
Totally agree. If you are looking a units of that age it appears that you have a limited budget for this project. Repair bills on a DP are going to be significantly higher that the gasser and at this age you are going to have repair bills. As far as performance of ride, towing capacity, weight you can carry, all favor the DP. However the cost may be the deciding factor. The purchase price is only part of the actual cost of having a motor home. We owned a gasser for years and loved every moment of owning it. We are going full-time now and this is going to be our home, so at this point I can justify a DP. Although the cost of repairs is still a concern.


The diesel will have fewer age related problems than the gas, and the repair costs will be the same. Shop labor makes no difference. The gas will have ignition, fuel injection, and electrical problems more often than the diesel.


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Hi,

I would go with gas. Far easier to find parts and mechanics. The Ford V-10 can go a million miles.


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Tom/Barb wrote:


The diesel will have fewer age related problems than the gas, and the repair costs will be the same. Shop labor makes no difference. The gas will have ignition, fuel injection, and electrical problems more often than the diesel.


A gas engine would have more ignition problems than a diesel, doubtless, since it has a separate ignition system. I rather doubt, though, that there's much difference in the propensity for fuel injection problems or electrical problems on modern gas and diesel engines. These systems are not all that much different, really, from what I can tell.





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Don't want to hijack this thread but i would have made one with exactly the same subject [emoticon]

would any of you chose New gaser in 100k range or used DP ?

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My DP is even older and purchased without a single service record.
So far so good and costs hardly anything to maintain.

* This post was edited 01/09/18 03:19pm by mike brez *


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pianotuna wrote:

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I would go with gas. Far easier to find parts and mechanics. The Ford V-10 can go a million miles.


But they get serviced more often than a diesel. with plugs and ignition wires and other stuff. they get oil and filters more often.

There is a Cummins or Cat dealer and a NAPA store around almost every corner. they carry or can have any part in 24 hours.

I needed a new injection line for my Cummins, in Glenallen Ak. ordered it at 4:00 got it in hand 8:00 next morning.
Parts being rare for diesels, is simply not true

* This post was edited 01/09/18 12:47pm by Tom/Barb *

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mike brez wrote:

My DP is even older and purchased without a single service record.
Do far so good and costs hardly anything to maintain.


And I'll bet you haven't put any DEF in it yet. [emoticon]

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bacil wrote:

Don't want to hijack this thread but i would have made one with exactly the same subject [emoticon]

would any of you chose New gaser in 100k range or used DP ?
DP. As long as you don't have to go back so far you are getting into dated equipment and interior. $100K will put you in a nice older DP.


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Hi Tom/Barb,

I had a 1987 FRED class C. 6.9 liter engine. Parts were not available in 2009. There were two places to go for service in a city of 225,000 souls. I had to pay $140 to $190 for an oil change. Granted 1987 is not 2000, but it is still 18 years, and at 18 years I was starting to have parts issues.

My V-10 is a lot less expensive to keep running. I would not go back to Diesel for love nor money. I've replaced one mass air flow sensor in over 100,000 miles.

I can do a LOT of maintenance for 10 grand.

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pianotuna wrote:

Hi,

I would go with gas. Far easier to find parts and mechanics. The Ford V-10 can go a million miles.


But they get serviced more often than a diesel. with plugs and ignition wires and other stuff. they get oil and filters more often.

There is a Cummins or Cat dealer and a NAPA store around almost every corner. they carry or can have any part in 24 hours.

I needed a new injection line for my Cummins, in Glenallen Ak. ordered it at 4:00 got it in hand 8:00 next morning.
Parts being rare for diesels, is simply not true


* This post was edited 01/10/18 09:29am by pianotuna *

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We always go older and no matter for getting the best quality and bang for the buck per our given budget.
Last time around, we went diesel and no matter what our argument might have been in the past, there's no going back now.


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