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Hi cumins12v98,

I just spoke with the store. They do not sell an autoformer--but there is a gentleman at the flea market that apparently makes them and sells them.

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Hi Cummins12v98,

May I ask you to tell us more about the autoformer from the Wilderness?

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I installed mine in our last RV because the educated idiots at the PalmSprings TT would not allow them saying they were causing their old decrepit system to fail and robbing the already low power. Funny part is the Wilderness TT/Naco 100 miles away sells their own version of the AutoFormer.


You would have to call Wilderness Lakes Resort and ask them. they have them for sale in their Country Store. Part of the Thousand Trails Family of Resorts.



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Unit arrived earlier this week. Eager to try it out.

Came with a digital volt meter and cable and lock.


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I have the ssp-50xl at the pedestal. The autoformer hooked up in the basement. And the EMS-HW50C in the trailer.

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I hope you will love it.

Be sure to share your results and observations with us.

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Unit arrived earlier this week. Eager to try it out.

Came with a digital volt meter and cable and lock.


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pianotuna wrote:

I hope you will love it.

Be sure to share your results and observations with us.

krsmitty wrote:

Unit arrived earlier this week. Eager to try it out.

Came with a digital volt meter and cable and lock.


Been awhile...

First of all Hughes customer service is great. The first unit I had was always showing a ground issue when I plugged into power at any campground. Called Hughes, and they shipped me out a brand new unit. Told me to use the box the new one came in to ship the old one back. Also provided a shipping label.

I am assuming it is working as designed. Have had no power surge/wiring issues. Could not tell you if booster has kicked in or not yet. But, according to the volt meter, voltage has always been in the mid 120's. Even when running both A/C's.

So far so good....

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I find it funny about people using those called "thieves"...

Which is ironic because low voltages trash things like A/C compressors and other components other time, so if a RV park is chronically running a low voltage and are aware of this (but do nothing except try to ban autoformers), they could be labelled as "vandals" for the damage they cause.

I like having the autoformer (and EMS) inside the rig. Keeps people from complaining and keeps it from disappearing.

As an alternative, I've been thinking of a whole-house inverter of 3000-4000 watts, then having the batteries fed by the usual 30 amp converter, as well as having another converter that is off a 15-20 amp connection. That way, I'd just plug in the 30 amp plug and a 20 amp plug in a CG that has low voltages, and none of my stuff would know or care.

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In older CGs you can blame the NEC for low voltage, not the CG.

The min. code requirements plus the way they were typically wired (individual #10 runs to pedestals) is to blame. More modern CGs are wired completely differently (multiple pedestals on a 200 amp feeder) and are much less likely to be a problem. That's not to say there can't be some cases of a CG needing to replace receptacles or repair connections. Many CG "electricians" are just general purpose handymen which doesn't help either.

Add to that all the high demand RVs of today. As of 2005, only 5% of CGs were required to have 50 amp pedestals. You can find lots of 50 amp RVs plugged in using 50-30 amp adapters and running 2 AC units and more thus straining the system well beyond what it was designed for. A hot spell exacerbates the problem. Have had a few CGs warn us in advance of voltage problems due to everyone running AC units. Stayed in a CG once that 100% 30 amp pedestals with individual #10 runs to them. Also stayed at one that had #10 romex strung between the trees and a receptacle in a box dangling in the air (def. not to code).

There are some CGs/RV parks that have voluntarily built their electrical systems above the min. code requirement like some casinos and gov't CGs.

If you plan to get around much, sooner or later you will encounter low voltage. It is what it is... We use mostly Thousand Trails CGs and they are well known for being older CGs. We bought a used Hughes autoformer beginning of last year and have used it only a few times. Most of the time their voltage is adequate while the lowest voltage I've ever seen was 106 volts before turning anything on.

You can also improve your odds of getting better voltage in an older CG by finding a site close to a main distribution panel or a transformer. If you can find one, use a pedestal with 50 amps on it. Some CGs apparently charge for a 50 amp pedestal. Or avoid a particular CG altogether. Installing a permanent voltmeter inside is a very good idea and even better, get a PI EMS unit to automatically protect you.

* This post was edited 09/13/17 12:07pm by myredracer *


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This Summer I was at what looked like a new place where the utilities had just been installed. All 30 amp. I was next to the end with about 100 volts. No idea how it was wired but it was sad.


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time2roll wrote:

This Summer I was at what looked like a new place where the utilities had just been installed. All 30 amp. I was next to the end with about 100 volts. No idea how it was wired but it was sad.


That is when the Hughes would help out some!

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krsmitty time2roll has a Franks autoformer.

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