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wolfe10 wrote:how much increase is there?I would think the independent drivers would know their cost since they are paying for both fuel and def, that's what they tell me
I would be quite surprised if the cost of DEF (particularly if purchased at the pump) would not be more than off-set by the better fuel mileage.
Same as gasoline cars when the catalytic converter came out in 1975.
The DPF and DEF allow the engine to be run dirtier/more power and let the equipment downstream clean it up.
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2oldman wrote:wa8yxm wrote:I sure know when I'm driving behind an old vehicle without it.
Do not know about Cats.. Never researched them to see how much good they do.
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wa8yxm wrote:I sure know when I'm driving behind an old vehicle without it.
Do not know about Cats.. Never researched them to see how much good they do.
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Mr.Mark wrote:
It's funny, I remember when people were going crazy when the catalytic converters came out in 1975..... and fully implemented in '79-'80. Same happened with shoulder seat belts with the buzzers.
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Mr.Mark wrote:
Mr. Dave, we bought the first year coach with the particulate filter on the 2007 chassis (2008 coach). We have had zero problems with it. DEF came out in 2010 if I'm not mistaken and our new coach will have it. I'm not concerned. The word on the street is the DEF units get a little better fuel mileage.
We have no smoke come out on heavy hill climbs. The regeneration cycle happens once about every 10,000 miles. There is a light on the dash to tell me the process is starting/happening.
If you want a totally emission-free diesel vehicle, go 2006 or earlier. It's funny, I remember when people were going crazy when the catalytic converters came out in 1975..... and fully implemented in '79-'80. Same happened with shoulder seat belts with the buzzers.
Go with the environmentally friendly units. Save a tree. LOL! (just kidding). Buy and drive what you like, this is America.
A side note: Before catalytic converters, the Los Angeles smog was horrendous. You couldn't see houses off the I-10 Freeway, especially, in San Bernardino, CA. There is still some smog but 95% better. Low emission vehicles are important for our health.
MM.
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