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RE: High end gasser or entry level DP

As we continue to shop for our new rig to start full time next year I keep teetering on gas vs diesel. (sort of full time - 6 mons at a time, break for a month, 6 months out...) My only real life experience is with gassers. We've had 2 and very entry level. While we loved both coaches and they served as great weekenders, one of our biggest complaints was ride quality. The harsh road feedback and the noise. Very loud and hard to hold a conversation. Both MH's were ACE's and poorly insulated (if at all) and light which I think worsened the harshness of the ride. Our budget puts us at a fairly new but used high end gasser, or a 4-6 year old used entry level DP (Excursion, Palazzo, Sportscoach etc) I don't want to go any older. I am aware of the difference in how a DP rides vs gasser, night and day. But what about a higher end gasser - like a Newmar or Tiffin ? Do they ride smoother and more quiet than an entry level coach despite being on the same F53? And how dramatic is the difference between say a Canyon star or Allegro than an entry level DP? Do all DP's ride pretty much the same or do higher end DP's ride better than entry level ones? I know I need to take some test rides and that was my plan, but as we all know doing that right now has been difficult. There's also the question of if I need a DP at all. Our travel days will be relatively short (that's the plan anyway), and stays longer. But despite loving our previous coaches, they were a nightmare to be in while riding, and I am really concerned about ride comfort. And as we all know, plans often change and we may find ourselves with occasional long days in the saddle. I should also add I know very little about diesels. Not that I did a lot of maintenance on our gassers, but at least I was able to do standard stuff. Anything house related - I am good. Appreciate the thoughts. When we last bought and after giving it some thought, for no matter what the use might entail, we went with a side radiator DP and for dropping back the number of years, it took for meeting our budget. Still for being better built and for longer lasting, than any entry level coach of any sort.
tropical36 05/04/20 01:00pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: need a place to overnight in Chicago. UPDATED

Before you make the trip in a motor home are you sure you will be allowed by the city of Chicago to take a motor home down the streets near Roosevelt U? There are a lot of streets that do not permit large vehicles such as RVs or even pickup trucks. RU is in the downtown area where traffic is controlled. They strictly enforce those prohibitions against larger vehicles and pickups. CPD won't hesitate to stop and write tickets and a ticket is not like a permit to continue. They'll get you out of the area. It would be pretty discouraging for you to drive from NE just to get there and find out CPD won't let you get close to RU. Just a suggestion that you might want to be positive you can do it before you try. Yeah and who knows for sure. Last time I was downtown, there were two large class A's parked on the street around the 6 or 700 block of S. Wabash. Not sure what they were doing there, but most likely not for R and R.
tropical36 04/19/20 05:47pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: need a place to overnight in Chicago. UPDATED

Something wrong here, so we'll skip this one, with dressing up my previous post....
tropical36 04/18/20 09:52am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: need a place to overnight in Chicago. UPDATED

Mike134...He's looking for a safe place to park overnight. I grew up in Chicago and that is NOT someplace I'd park overnight. But you knew that from 1000 miles away. My suggestion of the truckstop/parking on the interstate 30 minutes away still stands. Hey, I'm thinking a Walmart is a Walmart and with them having security if needed. I do know Chicago very well from spending time there years ago. Also with a visit back, not so long ago, but can't say I'm familiar with all the hazardous places or safe havens. However if this particular WM has a questionable reputation for safety, then by all means, the OP should seek shelter, elsewhere.
tropical36 04/18/20 09:50am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: need a place to overnight in Chicago. UPDATED

OK, she has quite a bit as she is not returning, that's where the moho will come in handy, lot's of room. I get it, everything is closed. I was hoping for a walmart or truckstop somewhere within about a 20 mile radius. We'll drop her off, go spend the night and return next morning to pick her up. If we can't take moho it will take two cars and a motel. thank for all the suggestions. OK, get on the horn with this Walmart and for hearing what they have to say. Shouldn't be more than about 10 miles or so, from where you need to be.... Your kidding right? Where do you live from there? I live over a 1000 miles from there, but what's that got to do with it?
tropical36 04/18/20 07:38am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: need a place to overnight in Chicago. UPDATED

OK, she has quite a bit as she is not returning, that's where the moho will come in handy, lot's of room. I get it, everything is closed. I was hoping for a walmart or truckstop somewhere within about a 20 mile radius. We'll drop her off, go spend the night and return next morning to pick her up. If we can't take moho it will take two cars and a motel. thank for all the suggestions. OK, get on the horn with this Walmart and for hearing what they have to say. Shouldn't be more than about 10 miles or so, from where you need to be....
tropical36 04/17/20 01:58pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: need a place to overnight in Chicago. UPDATED

How much stuff we talking here? Push comes to shove, you could send her on the train from the Casino RV Park in Joliet. Goes into La Salle st station and then for taking an uber from there and back. Meeting her there, the next day to help carry, would work out and for then taking your good ole time if you want, back at the campground. Only thing is, the express is still close to 3hrs, each way, station to station. You're saying that you don't have a toad that would qualify, right? Even so, you could alternately rent something larger and drive from the CG for picking her and her stuff up. The casino and property are closed due to Covid 19. Ummmmmm didn't know that, but when you think about it, if the casino is gonna be closed, they're not gonna bother with the CG and even if considered essential.
tropical36 04/17/20 07:12am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: need a place to overnight in Chicago. UPDATED

Call the school and find out if the school will be open for that semester. Not a sure thing these days. she's allowed to go in alone and pack up her dorm. How much stuff we talking here? Push comes to shove, you could send her on the train from the Casino RV Park in Joliet. Goes into La Salle st station and then for taking an uber from there and back. Meeting her there, the next day to help carry, would work out and for then taking your good ole time if you want, back at the campground. Only thing is, the express is still close to 3hrs, each way, station to station. You're saying that you don't have a toad that would qualify, right? Even so, you could alternately rent something larger and drive from the CG for picking her and her stuff up.
tropical36 04/16/20 12:09pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Which motorhome to buy

I would like to buy a used class A motorhome but not sure which ones are of good quality.I was looking at a Thor Ace but thanks to people on this site, I learned that that unit would not fit my needs. Any comments on which used class A's i should be looking at would be appreciated. I will be using it for extended travel with a lot of time spent out west in the summer. I only want gas units. I'm looking for 2017 or newer and am willing to spent up to $80,000. I think I'd go with the best quality Newmar available and for dropping back for how many years necessary to meet my budget.
tropical36 04/16/20 11:57am Class A Motorhomes
RE: No power to center pin of 7 pin trailer connector on Winne

Thanks Scottg-- After more looking, I found a breakout of the trailer connector. Yes the center pin is labeled for backup lights. Guess if I want a charge line, I will have to install one. Thanks for your help. -- Mick As said, there should be 12vdc on pin 4 and if not, check for an inline fuse connected on the chassis battery or batteries. Fuse it on the toad's battery as well.
tropical36 03/13/20 02:43pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: 2018 Thor ACE 30.3 inverter location?

Anyone have one of these and can answer? Also, what does the inverter power? Specific outlets? Specific devices? Thank you in advance! If you indeed have one, they can come in various wiring configurations for the outlets and aren't always as they say. For instance, ours has whole house pass through outlets, but not so on the list, which specifies only certain ones. Even whole house, doesn't include the AC's and Diesel engine block heater. May also be an extra behind the fridge that isn't inverted. I'd say that on basic models, they'll be direct, not feed through and probably only for the entertainment areas front and rear for powering the TV, radio, disk player....etc. It's size will be the first clue. According to specs, it’s 1000 W and one major job is the outside fridge. I’m hoping for some outlets and or the main TV. Thank you for your input! You should be good to go for the basics then and the entertainment center always comes first. Not large enough for expecting the Microwave oven to run off of it and probably not for any of the galley outlets, in fact.
tropical36 03/10/20 03:00pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: 2018 Thor ACE 30.3 inverter location?

Anyone have one of these and can answer? Also, what does the inverter power? Specific outlets? Specific devices? Thank you in advance! If you indeed have one, they can come in various wiring configurations for the outlets and aren't always as they say. For instance, ours has whole house pass through outlets, but not so on the list, which specifies only certain ones. Even whole house, doesn't include the AC's and Diesel engine block heater. May also be an extra behind the fridge that isn't inverted. I'd say that on basic models, they'll be direct, not feed through and probably only for the entertainment areas front and rear for powering the TV, radio, disk player....etc. It's size will be the first clue.
tropical36 03/10/20 12:55pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Coach Batteries

Looks like I will be replacing my coach batteries in the near future, they (only have 2) aren't holding a charge very long, this happened a few months ago & I found they were low on water & the cable hookups needed cleaning very bad, I fixed this problem, but now they are not holding the charge again for more than a few weeks & I do have the 12 volt switch in the off position when at home. What batteries should I be looking to buy, we only use the RV about 6 months of the year & that only for 3 or 4 days at a time. Rural King has 6v golf cart batteries for 79.99 and there is no membership at these stores, if there might be one near you. About to replace six in my golf cart and will go this route as well. Sam's Club are $90 with a membership, so..... For our coach, we bit the bullet when we purchased in 16 and went with four 12v AGM's. Yep, expensive, but no more checking and watering, which is a real pain, on our coach.
tropical36 03/10/20 12:43pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Help finding fresh date Tires

I had mich. 22’s and just went to Toyos. Just a fraction diff n size, much less $ and rode as good as Mich. Date is close to manuf date. Heck, when I got my bus, the orig tires were already 6 months old. Hard to get close to manuf date, but my Toyo dealer did great. $2600, 6 tires, mount, balanced, and out the door. I went in w cash and negotiated, and got a deal $500 less than Michelin’s. I had my orig tires 6.5 years, started sidewall cracking and 22,000 miles. Cash is king. And again, look at Toyos. A pleasant surprise. And you most likely won't be seeing any sidewall cracking in the next 6.5 yrs either, like one can expect with Michelins. A bit off topic, but when we sold one of our MH's a few years back the tires were 5 years old. No sidewall cracking at all and tread was great. However in an inspection they showed cracks between the treads and we were required to replace them. The point, I was told that sidewall cracks happen after it's too late, cracks between the treads happen much sooner and more difficult to detect. I've seen the cracking between the threads as well and on Michelins that I changed out, when purchasing a used coach in 07. Sidewall cracking was really apparent on this one until the rears were pulled and for seeing it, on the inside dually sidewalls, as well. Anyway no Michelins since and for any other over priced tire, for that matter. I mean there's only so many ways to engineer a tire folks and for still meeting DOT approval. Even if they could get by with junk, it wouldn't be long before they'd be out of business and especially with all the lawsuits, that would come with it. My cheapo Hercules tires, owned by Cooper, have been around for over 50 years, so they must be doing something right.........
tropical36 02/16/20 08:22am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Renting out your RV--Help

Rent out my RV??? You must be a comedian....:W.....Dennis I was thinking along those lines, as well, but more like insanity if on a serious note. Anyway, the OP is talking about writing a book here and not necessarily advocating what a clear thinking person, would actually do.
tropical36 02/11/20 07:30am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Help finding fresh date Tires

I had mich. 22’s and just went to Toyos. Just a fraction diff n size, much less $ and rode as good as Mich. Date is close to manuf date. Heck, when I got my bus, the orig tires were already 6 months old. Hard to get close to manuf date, but my Toyo dealer did great. $2600, 6 tires, mount, balanced, and out the door. I went in w cash and negotiated, and got a deal $500 less than Michelin’s. I had my orig tires 6.5 years, started sidewall cracking and 22,000 miles. Cash is king. And again, look at Toyos. A pleasant surprise. And you most likely won't be seeing any sidewall cracking in the next 6.5 yrs either, like one can expect with Michelins.
tropical36 02/11/20 07:24am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Help finding fresh date Tires

Excuse my ignorance, but why does it matter? Most tire shops/warehouses I've been to are inside and out of UV exposure which is the biggest killer to tires -surrounded by thousands of other tires. If they are 6 mos or 12 mos old, who cares? The lifecycle should pretty much start when you put them on your coach - when they start getting exposed to elements and sun. Whenever I got new tires for a previous MH's I never even bothered to look at the dates. Inspect them every year and knowing I will replace in 6-7 years from when I bought them. Never had an issue. Sorry, I don't get the fuss. If you buy an RV off the lot - a leftover 2019 with 2018 or older tires, do you replace those tires at 5 years or 7? Some would say that a certain amount of deterioration takes place, anyway, but I do see where you're coming from and have often felt the same way. However if at all possible, I would still go with the latest production and if not for any other reason, it would be for thinking ahead and for a possible resell of the coach or for trading it in. This usually is taken into account and no one at that point, will take the install date very seriously, if it should come under discussion in the first place. Good that you haven't had a problem though and I'm faced with the same thing now and wondering when they should be changed, even though a ways to go yet, either way.
tropical36 01/24/20 02:12pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Increasing towing capacity

I have a 1998 Fleetwood Bounder 34V it says gross towing weight is 3500 pounds I have a 4000 pound Jeep I want to tow how can i Increase my towing capacity. My GCWR is 23500 pounds, motor home dry weight (UVW) including fuel is 17250, carrying capacity is 2750 pounds towing capacity is 3500 pounds totaling 23500 pounds. Are there any suggestions on how to increase my towing capacity. Check it out thoroughly, but you'll find that in many cases, towing is limited to the transmission, which was my limiting factor in our old gas coach. Do you have a Ford or Chevy and you'll find that the latter will be the weaker of the two, although the 4L80E is a very good tranny. We towed a ton over specs. all over the country. Nothing broke and nothing fell off, but it did take some experience for climbing those long 6% grades, in the heat of summer and will leave that for another thread. For all other terrain, we never knew our toad, was even back there. Toad braking is a must however, so don't leave home without it and it did prove invaluable coming down off of those long grades in the Rockies and Appalachia. We now have a coach, that will pull most anything, without a sweat, so not a concern, anymore.
tropical36 01/24/20 10:00am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Interior adhesive

We are remodeling our 2008 Tiffin Allegro. We have removed all the window cornices/valances/decorations and shades. Installed solar roll up shades. But there are 2 places where I can’t get to with a drill to mount the new shades. So I thought I would just use adhesive to mount the roll up shade brackets on the wall. So far, carpet tape, industrial Velcro, nano-tape, super glue, and liquid nails have failed. But as part of the remodel, I tried removing the coat hook in the bedroom. I removed the screws and even with all of my weight trying, those jokers are stuck to the wall. So.... What did Tiffin use to adhere thiose hooks to the wall? Any suggestions for adhesive that would work for our new shades? I'd try industrial strength double sided tape, which I recently repaired a couple of basement doors with and what the manufacture used at the factory.... Tape
tropical36 01/24/20 09:50am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Help finding fresh date Tires

Hi all I am trying to help out a friend. He is looking to replace the tires on his class A He curently has Michelin 22 / 80 tires that are about 6 years old. While looking he is not haveing any luck on finding freash dated tires, or they will not guarantee the dates. He lives in South Louisana. Any help would be great Thanks. Michael All he has to do, is for asking the dealer to contact the warehouse, before shipping his tires. If they can't do that, move on to one that can and will.
tropical36 01/24/20 09:44am Class A Motorhomes
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