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RE: MH models with the fewest slides

20 years ago my wife and I were full-timers in our RV(s). We're in a house now, but itching to get back out touring. We have visited 48 of the 50 US states in our camper, we move a lot, and we dry-camp more than we stay in RV parks, so we're looking for a used class A with as few slides as possible. What models, 20 years old or less, should we be looking for? 36 to 40' max, and no tag axle. Looks like your advice is all over the place so far and because you haven't revealed your budget for this purchase. Also for whether you want a puller or a pusher and gas or diesel. Keep in mind a non slide coach, is worth about half of it's total value and the single most valuable option out there. Just saying, so that you won't be paying much of anything for a non slide perhaps and for then being lucky to ever sell it. One slide units were very prevalent in the late 90's and early 2000's and there must be some nice ones, that are still around.
tropical36 05/19/20 11:15am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Best Class C for the money

Tropicaal36 posted "Gee....after all that, I don't understand why a Class C doesn't cost a lot more than a DP/A....lol Hey whatever floats one's boat and why they make one for everyone. I used to have some arguments against a DP, but now that we have one, there's no going back to anything else, for us and not many do." The Original Poster asked a question about a Class C motorhome in a Class C forum. A poster with a Diesel Pusher asked why the OP did not consider a Class A motorhome. And someone then wonders about the responses received? Oh, so that was what it was all about and that might have been my bad, Ummmmmmm! So, the thread was high jacked then? Oh well, if just one person learned something, it can't be all bad. Least ways, it didn't go on to something like windshield wipers or for some other, off the wall subject....lol Having said that, I'll now bow out!
tropical36 05/19/20 10:28am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Best Class C for the money

I love my super c had it built to my specifications has 174,000 miles on it and it's a dream to dive and live in Super C's are another animal altogether. The one thing I do love about them, is engine access. That and for having all that hood out in front of you. Other than that, my preference is still for a bus.
tropical36 05/19/20 08:05am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Best Class C for the money

There are only four reasons for a diesel pusher. Room, washing machine, and dishwasher. And Prestige. Room is the only one worth considering. A Class C can support a toad. Class C's have Corian surfaces, tile floors, safe, vacuum cleaner, Satellite TV, etc. They are easier to drive, cost less to operate, easier to service. All given up is room and prestige. And ..... : No Class A has a coach structure consisting of outer walls and roof made up of a single molded fiberglass piece - for a lifetime of no leaks (other than around the same surface openings as are in a diesel pusher Class A) - as is the case in a Coach House Class C. Class C motorhomes can be retrofitted with genuine full-blown air suspension - if their owner(s) want to pay for it. Most diesel pusher Class A rigs should in no way be taken to explore and camp in the intimate and/or pristine remote places where a small Class C can be taken. The only torque that counts is the final torque winding up on the drive axles - and what this takes is a given amount of horsepower converted into the required amount of torque on drive axles via overall drive-train gearing. IAW, a given amount of diesel pusher horsepower is the same as the same given amount of gasser horsepower - other than the diesel pusher crankshaft turns at a lower RPM, so overall drive train gearing must be different than that of a gas engine powered motorhome. Pristige has it's roots in envy or yearning for something different ... and not everyone has diesel pusher Class A type roots. My envy and/or yearning centers around an over-the-top Earthroamer Class C. ;) Gee....after all that, I don't understand why a Class C doesn't cost a lot more than a DP/A....lol Hey whatever floats one's boat and why they make one for everyone. I used to have some arguments against a DP, but now that we have one, there's no going back to anything else, for us and not many do.
tropical36 05/18/20 10:11pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Best Class C for the money

There are only four reasons for a diesel pusher. Room, washing machine, and dishwasher. And Prestige. Room is the only one worth considering. A Class C can support a toad. Class C's have Corian surfaces, tile floors, safe, vacuum cleaner, Satellite TV, etc. They are easier to drive, cost less to operate, easier to service. All given up is room and prestige. Which begs the question of...why are they prestigious?... Maybe cuz you forgot to mention the air ride and lack of cockpit noise. How about for it's amazing low RPM torque. Our old gasser, once had a washer/dryer, that was removed at some point. Our DP doesn't have a dish washer and we don't want one. As for room, I've seen gassers near 40ft, while a new Tiffin Allegro Breeze DP is just 31ft 6". There's also some gassers with four slideouts, that make for a lot of room, regardless of it's length.
tropical36 05/18/20 06:50pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Kwikee Steps

I have a Class A Diesel pusher. We had the motor fixed on the steps about two months ago, and since then, everything has worked fine. Switches work fine, they retract when they are supposed to and extend when they are supposed to. Yesterday, we left on a trip and as soon as we started the motor, with the door closed, the steps extended. When the motor turns off, the steps retract. This is completely opposite of what they are supposed to do. On the trips we have taken since the motor was fixed, this didn't happen. It just started yesterday. Anyone have an idea of what might be the problem? Yep, complete opposite and for happening all on it's own, eh? Does it act the same with whatever position the step switch? That being the case and just for beginners, disconnect all your batteries negative leads for a few minutes, before reconnecting them. Don't ask me why, but I've reset a lot of stuff to it's proper working order that way.
tropical36 05/18/20 09:58am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Best Class C for the money

I am 72 and we think a class a would be too much to handle. We think also that having a short class c we would not need to pull a toad I'm older than that and find no problem with overall length. However, A's do come as short as 25-26ft. As for having a toad or not, you'll find that the real problem lies with having to break camp, every time, you wish to go somewhere and then for setting back up again, upon your return, which could be after dark, in the rain.
tropical36 05/18/20 08:44am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Wind noise

i would suggest that you tape around your windows and anywhere you think wind could get in with painters tape and take a drive. You'll find out pretty quick where the wind is coming from. Didn't work for me. Even stuffed plastic bags everywhere, including under the hood and on the sides of the dash. Hey, they were designed that way and if one was lucky enough for getting one where they made the mistake of sealing it up tight, then just rejoice. One must also remember, that with the cockpit quietness of most DP's, any noise at all, is going to be more noticeable than it would be with most gassers.
tropical36 05/15/20 05:27pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Wind noise

I just bought a 2009 American tradition while I was driving home I noticed a considerable amount of wi d noise. After looking for gaps in the gaskets and windows I believe the windshield may have been replace and looks like a gasket is missing at the bottom of the windshield where the generator slide mates to glass area. I have attached a picture if anyone can help I would appreciate it or take a picture of their coach so I can solve the wind noise. I can’t attach a picture I am a medieval to this forum Good luck! I've just decided to live with mine and it's really not so bad, even though I could live without it. Do let us know, if you find the culprit and a viable solution.
tropical36 05/13/20 08:14am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Rear View Camera vs Backup Camera

I'd just like some clarification on this topic. Every time I do a search for a rear view camera, I get a list of backup camera's. I'm looking for a camera and monitor that's on all the time, not just for backing up my vehicle. I can't find any information to clarify this. Are all backup camera's only for backing up? How do I find one to replace the rear view mirror to use for normal driving? Thanks, Puzzled They're all one in the same, as far as I know. Mine comes on when in reverse, but if you manually turn it on, which I always do, then it's on all the time.
tropical36 05/13/20 08:10am Beginning RVing
RE: Best Class C for the money

We are looking for the most reliable Class C out there. I have run a search and have digested those results. I am looking especially for those that have had class c's. Since you're getting plenty of answers to your question, may I ask why you're bent on a C, rather than an A and just for what, I might be missing here?
tropical36 05/12/20 09:35pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Power cord

Is there any problem leaving the power cord on my TT plugged in when when not in use. I do and a good charger will go down to a trickle and not boil the water out. Even so, I have AGM's and maintenance free for the chassis, so pretty good, either way...
tropical36 05/12/20 09:28pm General RVing Issues
RE: Galveston - Bolivar Ferry

I've been riding the Bolivar Ferry for many, many years but have never had my trailer on it. For those that have, is it comfortable to board the ferry pulling a longer travel trailer? Max length allowed is 65' but my trailer/truck combination will only be about 50'. My comfort level is challenged by the tight lanes on the ferry. No problem with our 36ft Coach and toad at the time. Easy on and easy off. Just couldn't get over it being for free.
tropical36 05/12/20 05:26pm Roads and Routes
RE: need new tires

Dry rot has forced us to accept the need for new tires. Class A, 32' 2006 Georgie Boy Pursuit. Current have R245/70R19.5 (H) on it. Lasted only less than 6 years with less than 20,000 miles on them. They sat too long in the sun, for sure. Suggestions on which tires to buy w/o breaking the bank. Looking at some brands in the $180-225 per tire range Several J, 18 ply, most, like what we have now, H with 16 Ply. Costs quotes is just per tire, not mounted, aligned, etc. Would appreciate your suggestions. Thanks. I've found over the years, that Hercules has been the best bang for the buck. Having said that, just how many ways are there to make a DOT tire? And still waiting for the chemical and mechanical engineers for making this kind of data available. Nope, not a Michelin disciple, as you might have guessed, as there isn't a thing holy about their tires.
tropical36 05/12/20 03:06pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Towing capacity - surprisingly little on new coaches

As some of you may have read we are shopping for a new coach to full/part time in next year. In shopping I came across some surprising info on capacity. I know a lot of gassers with the 5k or 7k hitch actually have very little capacity when doing the math. What was a surprise to me is that some DP's also suffer from this. As an example, the Forza line, the difference between the weight and GCWR on some models is only 3k. Makes the 10k hitch almost useless. Our CRV is about 3500 lbs, never mind we also like to eat, have water and clothes. I know the actual weight needs to be done in order to arrive at real world conditions, but off the shelf advertised weights of some of these coaches simply won't work. Do they rely on people not knowing or caring? Or am I calculating something wrong? Anyway, found it very surprising for a DP. Makes shopping and finding models you like a real let down. I noticed this, when friends bought a new 17 Pace Arrow, which is good for about 800lbs of towing capacity. Still they pull a jeep toad. This DP's specs are even less than our old gasser, but only because of the GM tranny and most sure, that the tranny is the weak link with the Pace, as well. On another note, our present coach is good for 15Klbs tow and 1500lbs hitch weight. Sounds good, along with more than a ton left of CCC, but just so happens that the rear axle is at max. when loaded, so probably not so good if pulling a heavy trailer. Not a factor with our four down toad, but just saying..... Oh well and just as long as they continue to install huge TV's and fireplaces, sales will continue to flourish.
tropical36 05/12/20 10:11am Class A Motorhomes
RE: High end gasser or entry level DP

What this thread reinforces is that there is no IDEAL coach for everyone. Choose what meets YOUR needs, not what others have chosen to meet theirs. No different than choosing a home, a car or most other things. Agree, getting input on how others have made the best decision for THEM can certainly help-- again the same for choosing a car, etc. I wasn't asking for someone to make my decision for me. I know what my needs are. I was asking for information on the differences in ride, amenities and quality between a high end gasser and an entry level DP, Having not been in many pushers I thought folks on here would provide some insight. IMO and from what I've seen, a high end gasser and an entry level DP are pretty much equal, except for the ride and just as long as the DP has air bags. In that dept. there shouldn't be any comparison, between riding on air vs flexing steel. Then there's the engine noise between the driver and passenger which is pretty obvious. I think the biggest thing that amazes me with our first Diesel here, is the low end torque, that it has. I mean, here we are, cranking a measly 1500rpm, while carrying all this weight, as well as pulling a fairly heavy toad up miles of 6% grades or more, without a sweat. This vs a screaming banshee, right next to you, trying to accomplish the same thing, which it still can't do, in many cases.
tropical36 05/11/20 08:11am Class A Motorhomes
RE: High end gasser or entry level DP

What this thread reinforces is that there is no IDEAL coach for everyone. Choose what meets YOUR needs, not what others have chosen to meet theirs. No different than choosing a home, a car or most other things. Agree, getting input on how others have made the best decision for THEM can certainly help-- again the same for choosing a car, etc. You got that right and for us with houses, it was always location, location, location. For cars, it was quality first, within our budget and as a result, have only bought one new one in my lifetime and that was a mistake, even though, many would say, it was too good a deal to pass up. I've never bought a new RV or boat either, but never entry level.
tropical36 05/10/20 09:15am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Where is the Fuse/Breaker ?

There is most likely no wire run for that purpose. If you look at the 7 pin connector by opening the door - the pin just clockwise of the keyway is supposed to be the charge line. If you look at the back of the connector where the wires enter it, you will most likely find only a hole where the wire is supposed to go for that pin for the charge line. hotrodr is right, there is no wire attached to that terminal. Plus the Winn wiring schematic shows only 6 wires going to the 7pin connector. I will run a charge line with inline fuse from the battery. What a pain, wonder why they wouldn't wire the connector completely in the first place? Happy Camping !! That being the case, it would make it much too easy for the customer and for a good dollar six eighty in loss of profit for them.
tropical36 05/06/20 07:52am Class A Motorhomes
RE: High end gasser or entry level DP

I would choke if I was charged $300 for an oil change----I get complete service including diesel generator, all fuel filters, air filters, grease everything, for less than that---I am in central NC and get it done at a big truck place once a year, early spring. Even though, I said I wouldn't, when we got the Diesel, in the end, I decided to go it myself. Greasing is as bad as our old P32 gasser, but the rest, is not near the job, I thought it might be. Last time around, I changed the fuel filter in the genset too. Thing is about having someone else, doing your work, you really don't know, unless you're standing right there with them. Quick story and when I once had a garage grease my P32, I told the manager to have the tech give me a count on the fittings he did, as I knew exactly how many there were. When completed, I asked again for this info. He calls the tech over for the answer, which was...MUCHO!...!
tropical36 05/05/20 07:32pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Where is the Fuse/Breaker ?

Did you ever have power there? This is the first time I have needed to use it, so I don't know if there has ever been power there or not. I checked and there are 7 wires in the harness on back of the connector. My rear end dragged entering a parking lot and ground the tow cable in half, so suspect that's when I shorted the 12V line. I need to find the fuse to replace it. Thanks Check for an inline fuse on one of the batteries...
tropical36 05/05/20 03:02pm Class A Motorhomes
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